Comments Thread For: Conor McGregor May Help in Push To Extend Ali Act To MMA

[MurkaMan]

There's no chance this legislation will extend to the UFC. The Ali Act was about transparency and fighter safety. The UFC doesn't have those issues.

There is a valid argument for a fighters' union though. However, there are strong forces that would likely prevent that from becoming a thing anytime soon.

Exactly, if 100% of all the fighters banded together, it would be hard to go against them. Dana would scream and shout about how he is cool with it, and will just get new fighters, but if they holded out, they could make a difference.

[Eff Pandas]

There's no chance this legislation will extend to the UFC. The Ali Act was about transparency and fighter safety. The UFC doesn't have those issues.

There is FOR SURE transparency issues in the UFC. One of the things that the Ali Act actually changed was getting fighters to see what they were worth & what they were being paid by their promoter. Granted some walk the line by disclosing that info to their fighters at the weigh in like Chris Algieri's corrupt ass promoter, Joe DeGuardia. But its basically opening the books up for a fighter to be able to know his value & its needed.

The UFC doesn't allow fighters to see what sorta revenue they generate & there cut of that revenue. And there is even often disputes with PPV figures released & PPV figures being paid to fighters as Rampage Jackson has talked about.

The Ali Act for MMA should 100% be passed, but it likely won't be. Not cuz its not needed, but because the US political system is more corrupt then boxing or MMA & the UFC has spent millions paying lobbyists to push there agenda which I promise you isn't about transparency.

[Butch.McRae]

There is FOR SURE transparency issues in the UFC. One of the things that the Ali Act actually changed was getting fighters to see what they were worth & what they were being paid by their promoter. Granted some walk the line by disclosing that info to their fighters at the weigh in like Chris Algieri's corrupt ass promoter, Joe DeGuardia. But its basically opening the books up for a fighter to be able to know his value & its needed.

The UFC doesn't allow fighters to see what sorta revenue they generate & there cut of that revenue. And there is even often disputes with PPV figures released & PPV figures being paid to fighters as Rampage Jackson has talked about.

The Ali Act for MMA should 100% be passed, but it likely won't be. Not cuz its not needed, but because the US political system is more corrupt then boxing or MMA & the UFC has spent millions paying lobbyists to push there agenda which I promise you isn't about transparency.

It's really not that hard to determine what share of revenue the fighters are getting. The reality is most mid tier UFC guys are living much better lives than their boxing counterparts on average. If you want to make a distinction about the small few at the top who this would matter for, then go ahead, but that type of argument falls of deaf ears more often than not. Some newly elected congressman isn't going to sway anybody in Congress.

The UFC runs a pretty clean shop in comparison to boxing on almost all fronts. And btw, the UFC reports live gate info, the PPV data is harder to decipher (which comes once every 4 or 5 events) but analysts are pretty good with estimates, so it's not as egregious as you're claiming. I follow the business of the UFC closely, a lot of these complaints are coming from guys who are "stars" and want a bigger slice but that's not going to ever create a consensus amongst the large majority of guys who get it.

[Eff Pandas]

It's really not that hard to determine what share of revenue the fighters are getting.

In the NFL or NBA its not. In boxing its not since the MAA allowed fighters see that before fights. But the UFC has nothing like that in place. No one knows their value like promoters are required via the MAA to give boxers.

The reality is most mid tier UFC guys are living much better lives than their boxing counterparts on average. If you want to make a distinction about the small few at the top who this would matter for, then go ahead, but that type of argument falls of deaf ears more often than not. Some newly elected congressman isn't going to sway anybody in Congress.

Thats fair. Politics is corrupt as f#ck like I said & the UFC is lobbying to get it shot down & probably will. That doesn't mean its right doe. Fighters SHOULD know how much revenue they are generating in a more clear & concise way just like the MAA allows for.

The UFC runs a pretty clean shop in comparison to boxing on almost all fronts. And btw, the UFC reports live gate info, the PPV data is harder to decipher (which comes once every 4 or 5 events) but analysts are pretty good with estimates, so it's not as egregious as you're claiming.

Rampage Jackson has stated he was told the numbers leaked by the UFC didn't match the numbers he was told he did & they wouldn't show him the books to confirm or deny the leaked number or the lesser number they were gonna pay him. Call that what you will, but its not a clean shop even if it might be a clean shop in comparison to the UFC.

And this isn't really a **** measuring context between the UFC & Boxing anyway. But its worth noting that Arum has stole the UFC strategy of having fighters signing over likeness & other income rights associated with boxing (gear sales, video game likeness, etc.) in his contracts as of late. Thats rumored to be why Broner didn't take a career high payday to fight Manny. So that says something about what the UFC when Arum's crooked ass is hi******* their ideas.

I follow the business of the UFC closely, a lot of these complaints are coming from guys who are "stars" and want a bigger slice but that's not going to ever create a consensus amongst the large majority of guys who get it.

Idk why it matters who wants transparency. Its the right thing to do in MMA just like it is in boxing, the NFL, the NBA & any other non-hitting people in the head sport idgaf about, but is where guys might be getting ripped off by rich people keeping information from them for their own best rich guy interest as they maximize their own take. The people giving up their bodies & long term health deserve at least that one would think.

[Combat Talk Radio]

MMA fighters often complain that their UFC contracts limit their earnings, pointing to the exclusive outfitting deal with Reebok, which prevents them from wearing equipment from any other manufacturer when fighting.
They are also not allowed to include logos from other sponsors on their clothing or to display banners in their corners, as is normal in other promotions.

This has led to a considerable drop in income for many fighters, with former women’s bantamweight champion Miesha Tate estimating in a 2015 interview that the terms of the Reebok apparel deal caused her to lose 80 to 90 percent of what she previously earned in sponsorships.

There have also been complaints about lower-ranked UFC fighters being awarded title bouts simply based on their ability to sell television pay-per-view subscriptions, which is a core element of the UFC’s income in the United States.

Despite losing in the 10th round against Mayweather, McGregor has indicated that he may box again, and a handful of other UFC fighters have expressed an interest in lucrative one-off boxing bouts.

Legal experts have been discussing in the media whether McGregor is now a boxer in the eyes of the law, and thus entitled to the protection of the Act, or if he will lose that protection when he returns to the UFC.