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    Without Any Doubt...

    Andre Ward Is Rightly P4P no. 1, he retires GGG.
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    #2
    He should retire as Andre Ward imo..

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    • Canelo and GGG
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      #3
      Originally posted by BoxingFan85
      He should retire as Andre Ward imo..

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        Yep, he's number 1. Canelo is the same size as GGG, just shorter. They both get whooped up on by Ward.

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        • j.razor
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          #5
          Whoever said different "Don't Know S**t Bout Boxing!"

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          • HarvardBlue
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            #6
            If there was a doubt, Saturday should have proved it. Crawdord is number 2 but he's far behind Ward. Lomachenko has a ways to go also, but he has the best chance to take over the spot if Crawford stumbles on his way up to WW.

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              #7
              Originally posted by [T][B][E]
              Andre Ward Is Rightly P4P no. 1, he retires GGG.
              Ward is number 1 on your list without a doubt. Without a doubt he isn't number 1 or even number 2 on my list. Maybe Ward would beat GGG because he is a 15 pound heavier fighter. PFP is rating the boxers as if they were the exact same perfect fighting weight. GGG would beat a middleweight Ward in my opinion. I don't think Kovalev is as good as Canelo and both of Ward's wins over him were debatable. I though Kovalev won the first fight and Ward got a KO win in the 2nd fight with low blows the ref didn't call. I though GGG beat Canelo and that is better than anything Ward has done. Make Ward the greatest boxer in history if you want. That's your call but Ward isn't topping my PFP list. I think a 175 pound version of Crawford, GGG, Canelo,Loma,Rigo and Spence would all beat Ward and they are better than him PFP. To each his own.

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                Originally posted by j.razor
                Whoever said different "Don't Know S**t Bout Boxing!"
                So you are saying anybody who doesn't share your opinion of Ward's superiority of any other boxer fighting today doesn't know boxing. How humble of you. I think I know boxing well enough and I think there should be an L on mister perfect man Ward's record from the first Kovalev fight and so do about 80% of the people who saw the fight. Then when he beats Kovalev in a return match he becomes the best PFP fighter in the world by a mile to you and some others. I don't agree and think he is extremely overrated by many. Does his Kovalev win make him the best forever or is he going to fight another good boxer anytime soon. He doesn't even have a fight lined up as yet. It's hard to be the best fighter in the world when you don't fight and not fighting very much has been a big part of Ward's career. I am not even sure he is the best light heavyweight in the world let alone the best fighter in any weight class.Wen will he fight Stevenson or another one of the best light heavyweights?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  So you are saying anybody who doesn't share your opinion of Ward's superiority of any other boxer fighting today doesn't know boxing. How humble of you. I think I know boxing well enough and I think there should be an L on mister perfect man Ward's record from the first Kovalev fight and so do about 80% of the people who saw the fight. Then when he beats Kovalev in a return match he becomes the best PFP fighter in the world by a mile to you and some others. I don't agree and think he is extremely overrated by many. Does his Kovalev win make him the best forever or is he going to fight another good boxer anytime soon. He doesn't even have a fight lined up as yet. It's hard to be the best fighter in the world when you don't fight and not fighting very much has been a big part of Ward's career. I am not even sure he is the best light heavyweight in the world let alone the best fighter in any weight class.Wen will he fight Stevenson or another one of the best light heavyweights?
                  Get your humble a*s out the fight game. Ward was P4P as soon as Floyd left so erase whatever they told you. Ward spanked kovalev after the knock down all the way to the second fight. Ward has been undefeated since he was 14yrs old, won the Olympics, won the super six, moved up in weight & beat the "Crusher" to submission. Stevenson don't want it so just keep it movin homie!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Ward is number 1 on your list without a doubt. Without a doubt he isn't number 1 or even number 2 on my list. Maybe Ward would beat GGG because he is a 15 pound heavier fighter. PFP is rating the boxers as if they were the exact same perfect fighting weight. GGG would beat a middleweight Ward in my opinion. I don't think Kovalev is as good as Canelo and both of Ward's wins over him were debatable. I though Kovalev won the first fight and Ward got a KO win in the 2nd fight with low blows the ref didn't call. I though GGG beat Canelo and that is better than anything Ward has done. Make Ward the greatest boxer in history if you want. That's your call but Ward isn't topping my PFP list. I think a 175 pound version of Crawford, GGG, Canelo,Loma,Rigo and Spence would all beat Ward and they are better than him PFP. To each his own.
                    Mayweather did more damage to Canelo than GGG did, If GGG can't KO Canelo both weighing 170+ in the ring fight night, I don't see him KO'ing Ward. Ward Would just Bully him break him down and make him Quit! Luckily for you he's now retired.

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