Jacobs is more deserving of a rematch
Think GGG should fight 1 or 2 times. Then retire..
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I kinda agree with GGG retiring soon, because all these younger guys are only going to get better. The charlos, andradre, jacobs, canelo etc And some of them don't bring the money that he and his team needs but they bring aggression. He doesn't want to find himself in the same position that Sergio Martinez was a couple of years ago. People would accuse him of ducking just like they did with Martinez.Comment
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I'd agree. Jacobs put up a better fight than Canelo did.
But GGG has to also be looking at what will bring him the biggest $$$ before he retires.
A rematch with Canelo would have to make sense just from a financial point of view.Comment
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If there's no big risk for health, any elite boxer supposed to have competitive spirit that won't let him retire until he's guaranteed to get in Hall of Fame and leave some mark in the history. Point, blank, period.I mean I got great respect for guys like Floyd, Klitschko, Oscar, Manny & others that are the exception more than the rule in waking up in silk pjs & living like the prince of Zamunda, but I don't think thats something most guys are capable of or should even wanna attempt in this sport ideally. Get in, get paid, gtfo. And GGG has been around trying to get that money he deserves for a long time & he's getting it now & why risk your health any more at some point in time when you've accomplished so much & now have the money + accomplishments + respect. All you tend to get extra for sticking around too long is more money that have been traded off for brain cells & future health issues.
Golovkin needs scalps like Charlo and BJS, he can leave the sport then and even if he beats them, it's unlikely he's going to be remembered after retirementLast edited by g27region; 09-20-2017, 08:08 AM.Comment
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Is BJS really a HOF entry scalp? I think fighting BJS will be a completely forgetable fight...unless he loses to him & helps BJS get a name off of him.If there's no big risk for health, any elite boxer supposed to have competitive spirit that won't let him retire until he's guaranteed to get in Hall of Fame and leave some mark in the history. Point, blank, period.
Golovkin needs scalps like Charlo and BJS, he can leave the sport then and even if he beats them, it's unlikely he's going to be remembered after retirement
Is Charlo a HOF scalp with 1 MW win & a relatively whatever 154 history?
I think both of those guys got wayyyyyy more to prove to get where GGG was a couple years back let alone hold the ticket to the HOF for GGG.
Canelo is GGG's key to getting into the HOF & honestly that draw that most fans thought was a win likely is enough if you follow the low barrier of entry to the HOF. He won't need to do anything post a Canelo official win to get in there. And soon after that rematch, win or lose, a combo of all that money he'll have will likely lead to his demise like it does for most boxers + his age will likely catch up with him, as I think its done already to some degree, so he's unlikely to get past some of these guys coming up who've done nothing, but some suspect can beat GGG & Canelo like Charlo.Comment
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Yes very true, and it will almost certainly end up going to the rematch with Canelo. It simply makes more sense financially and Jacobs was a difficult prospect the first time, GGG has a lot more to lose if he faced Jacobs.Comment
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I don't think you want any part of Ramirez. He's got a big reach advantage and can't punch..Comment
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A lot more to lose, and less to gain financially.
When a boxer gets to a certain age, and I really believe that they only have a couple more fights in them before they retire, then I don't hold it against them when they look for money over legacy.Comment
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BJS is only a decent scalp, not a great one, the name doesn't matter, but the status of undisputed champion does. It's not about BJS, it's about his belt.Is BJS really a HOF entry scalp? I think fighting BJS will be a completely forgetable fight...unless he loses to him & helps BJS get a name off of him.
Is Charlo a HOF scalp with 1 MW win & a relatively whatever 154 history?
I think both of those guys got wayyyyyy more to prove to get where GGG was a couple years back let alone hold the ticket to the HOF for GGG.
Canelo is GGG's key to getting into the HOF & honestly that draw that most fans thought was a win likely is enough if you follow the low barrier of entry to the HOF. He won't need to do anything post a Canelo official win to get in there. And soon after that rematch, win or lose, a combo of all that money he'll have will likely lead to his demise like it does for most boxers + his age will likely catch up with him, as I think its done already to some degree, so he's unlikely to get past some of these guys coming up who've done nothing, but some suspect can beat GGG & Canelo like Charlo.
Charlo and BJS are the best available options for Golovkin because he ain't beating Canelo in a rematch. And he can't improve his resume with other names, not with Derevyanchenko or mummy version of Cotto
It doesn't matter if some people thought he won, robbery or close fight, a draw is a draw. Realistically he doesn't have a legit win over Canelo, so that draw won't help him to get in HOF. There's only two good fight available for Golovkin before his retirement, BJS and Charlo. Canelo is the money fight, but it's gonna be L for sureComment
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Idk that history will care about BJS's ****** belt. There are ALWAYS more belts & stripping & all sorts of bs going on in this era with them. This era's belting will be a joke in the future or a bigger joke than it already is.
Idk about that. I think Cotto, mummy version or not, is a better name for GGG's historic resume than Charlo & BJS. Charlo & BJS could end up being as good or better than Cotto's name, but it'll depend on what they do in the future, much like Floyd's resume becomes better with Canelo's accomplishments post Floyd beating him.Charlo and BJS are the best available options for Golovkin because he ain't beating Canelo in a rematch. And he can't improve his resume with other names, not with Derevyanchenko or mummy version of Cotto
Of course opinions matter. To most fans Manny has 3 wins over Bradley & Lennox gots 2 wins over Holyfield. And there is still controversy with fights further back then that in the history of the sport. The judges can decide whatever they want & you or I or anyone else can have our specific opinion, but there is almost always a public narrative that is superior to any one persons opinion or the judges official decision & thats the story.It doesn't matter if some people thought he won, robbery or close fight, a draw is a draw. Realistically he doesn't have a legit win over Canelo, so that draw won't help him to get in HOF. There's only two good fight available for Golovkin before his retirement, BJS and Charlo. Canelo is the money fight, but it's gonna be L for sureComment
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