Luis Ortiz amateur history

[pesticid]

It does happen in baseball. I know of a couple of instances, not just with Cubans. But it makes sense in baseball. An older athlete won't get the kind of contract a younger man will. I don't see the benefit a professional fighter might gain by lying about his age. All things considered, I agree with you, Ortiz's age is legit.

When you come to the U.S. you bring your Cuban passport or carnet de identidad if you've come illegally and don't have a passport. You cannot fake a Cuban passport or a carnet de identidad in Cuba (it is issued by the Cuban government) and during the dry feet wet feet legislation you had to provide either one to be given amnesty. So it is very highly unlikely for a Cuban athlete to be able to lie about his/her age regardless of the sport they participate in.

[CubanGuyNYC]

When you come to the U.S. you bring your Cuban passport or carnet de identidad if you've come illegally and don't have a passport. You cannot fake a Cuban passport or a carnet de identidad in Cuba (it is issued by the Cuban government) and during the dry feet wet feet legislation you had to provide either one to be given amnesty. So it is very highly unlikely for a Cuban athlete to be able to lie about his/her age regardless of the sport they participate in.

The great Cuban NY Yankees pitcher, Orlando "El Duque" Hernández lied about his age, and got away with it. I remember it was questioned from the beginning. Years later, the truth came to light. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia, regarding this fact:

When Hernández signed with the Yankees in 1998, he claimed to have been born in 1969. In 1999, The Smoking Gun published his divorce decree from Cuba, which had surfaced in connection with a child support case brought by his ex-wife; the decree revealed him to have been born in 1965. The official site of Major League Baseball still gives his year of birth as 1969, while his pages on ESPN and Baseball-Reference.com list it as 1965.

Dominican second baseman Miguel Tejada was also caught lying about his age. When he was signed in 1993, he claimed he was 17, when in actuality he was 19. http://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3351418

These are just two examples I know off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others, perhaps many others. There is a lot of money to be made playing baseball, and age plays a significant role in how much money you get. As I said earlier, I don't see the parallel in professional boxing.

[BoxingFan85]

I heard he got 2nd in the Bethlehem Golden Gloves back in the day. Pretty sure Jesus was on PEDs doe.

Charles Martin won that Gooden Gloves.. Ever since that day he walks this earth like God!

[pesticid]

The great Cuban NY Yankees pitcher, Orlando "El Duque" Hernández lied about his age, and got away with it. I remember it was questioned from the beginning. Years later, the truth came to light. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia, regarding this fact:

When Hernández signed with the Yankees in 1998, he claimed to have been born in 1969. In 1999, The Smoking Gun published his divorce decree from Cuba, which had surfaced in connection with a child support case brought by his ex-wife; the decree revealed him to have been born in 1965. The official site of Major League Baseball still gives his year of birth as 1969, while his pages on ESPN and Baseball-Reference.com list it as 1965.

Dominican second baseman Miguel Tejada was also caught lying about his age. When he was signed in 1993, he claimed he was 17, when in actuality he was 19. http://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3351418

These are just two examples I know off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others, perhaps many others. There is a lot of money to be made playing baseball, and age plays a significant role in how much money you get. As I said earlier, I don't see the parallel in professional boxing.

I am not saying you can't lie about your age and I've heard of these two examples but if they verify your id documents from Cuba unless it was an administrative error I don't see how the Cuban gov't can't put a different age. I live in Cuba and I haven't heard anything like that happening there.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I am not saying you can't lie about your age and I've heard of these two examples but if they verify your id documents from Cuba unless it was an administrative error I don't see how the Cuban gov't can't put a different age. I live in Cuba and I haven't heard anything like that happening there.

MLB is a multi-billion dollar industry, with every conceivable resource and every motivation to protect their interests. Hernandez passed through several teams and no one found the truth. It must be easier to get away with this than you think.

You actually live in Cuba?

[pesticid]

MLB is a multi-billion dollar industry, with every conceivable resource and every motivation to protect their interests. Hernandez passed through several teams and no one found the truth. It must be easier to get away with this than you think.

You actually live in Cuba?

Half of the year I am in Cuba