Can Crawford really beat either Spence or Thurman?

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  • Squ□redCircle34
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    #21
    Brook doesn't have as many tools as Bud and skill wise isn't even in the same stratosphere!

    Brook's footwork is terrible compared to Crawford's!

    Spence relies on his size, jab and power to win fights!

    When Spence tried to box with Brook it was dead even it wasn't until he realized he needed to grind him down and go on the inside is where he has more success and Crawford would stay strictly on the outside unlike Brook who would sit on the ropes and take flush shots to the body and on the head moving straight back without any lateral movement!

    Bud just needs to be concerted with taking risks and make Spence miss and pay quickly and get out of range!

    Would be a very good high intense chess match fight!

    Too bad it will never happen!

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    • North Star
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      #22
      Plus, it could be argued that Golovkin ruined Brook, and took his prime away. Brook had no business going up that high just for a payday IMO.

      Essentially, Spence seized upon damaged goods.

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      • Sheldon312
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        #23
        Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
        Brook doesn't have as many tools as Bud and skill wise isn't even in the same stratosphere!

        Brook's footwork is terrible compared to Crawford's!

        Spence relies on his size, jab and power to win fights!

        When Spence tried to box with Brook it was dead even it wasn't until he realized he needed to grind him down and go on the inside is where he has more success and Crawford would stay strictly on the outside unlike Brook who would sit on the ropes and take flush shots to the body and on the head moving straight back without any lateral movement!

        Bud just needs to be concerted with taking risks and make Spence miss and pay quickly and get out of range!

        Would be a very good high intense chess match fight!

        Too bad it will never happen!
        I'm sorry but you really are living in the moment. Brook is a technician with a great jab and right hand. Plus he is bigger than Crawford and stronger. It was hard for him to keep Spence off of him do you honestly think Crawford is going to be able to keep Spence off of him? You make it seem as if Crawford is this elite defensive fighter which he is not.

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        • CodeBreaker
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          #24
          Originally posted by Sheldon312
          I'm sorry but you really are living in the moment. Brook is a technician with a great jab and right hand. Plus he is bigger than Crawford and stronger. It was hard for him to keep Spence off of him do you honestly think Crawford is going to be able to keep Spence off of him? You make it seem as if Crawford is this elite defensive fighter which he is not.
          But I keep hearing majority saying Crawford is a great defensive fighter, and can do counter punching well

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          • Shinkyokushin92
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            #25
            I think he beats Thurman. They are similar in height & Crawford is still filling out. Crawford is faster, has better technique & solid power which I think will carry up to 147. He would catch Thurman in between his wild swings.

            Not sure if he beats Spence, purely due to the size difference. Spence is a big WW and could be too much.

            Overall, I think Bud is a more complete fighter than both guys and he is something special.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Shinkyokushin92
              I think he beats Thurman. They are similar in height & Crawford is still filling out. Crawford is faster, has better technique & solid power which I think will carry up to 147. He would catch Thurman in between his wild swings.

              Not sure if he beats Spence, purely due to the size difference. Spence is a big WW and could be too much.

              Overall, I think Bud is a more complete fighter than both guys and he is something special.
              Really looking foward to theses fights, and i agree with all of what you said.

              I think Spence is by far the most interesting fight to come, because i don't think Thurman stand a chance at all. But still i favor Bud, simply because he is a level over Spence is term of skills, i think Crawford have the defensive tools; movement, counter punching and enough power to keep Spence at bay for 12 rounds.

              Get ready for the takeover people, i've been saying for over 2 years that Crawford is the most skilled fighter out there. Now he's bout to prove himself to every single doubter in the world when he beat 147 division.

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              • jdp28tx
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                #27
                I think Cotto should fight Thurman or Spence. He should fight Spence, its a fight he could win and would get a lot of credit for taking. He could fight him while he is still inexperienced and he could win too. Or he should fight Thurman and Cotto's body shots would ko Thurman. One thing that Thurman can't take, and he has shown this in multiple fights, is body shots. He just can't take it to the body.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CodeBreaker
                  But I keep hearing majority saying Crawford is a great defensive fighter, and can do counter punching well
                  Marcquez was a great counter puncher but was he really a great defensive fighter? Crawford is a good defensive fighter but he is not a Ward, Oscar, Pernell, Looche, Pernell, Floyd, Wilfred, Bernard.

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                  • Sheldon312
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Shinkyokushin92
                    I think he beats Thurman. They are similar in height & Crawford is still filling out. Crawford is faster, has better technique & solid power which I think will carry up to 147. He would catch Thurman in between his wild swings.

                    Not sure if he beats Spence, purely due to the size difference. Spence is a big WW and could be too much.

                    Overall, I think Bud is a more complete fighter than both guys and he is something special.
                    Crawford is not faster than Thurman and Thurman is naturally the bigger man. Thurman could go up and compete at 154 while Crawford is a natural 135 pounder. Crawford is slightly more technical but Thurman has hom on foot speed, athleticism, defense, and power, and size. I have a feeling that this fight with end up like Casamayor vs Corrales 2 where speed and power wins the day over skills.

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                    • Sheldon312
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jdp28tx
                      I think Cotto should fight Thurman or Spence. He should fight Spence, its a fight he could win and would get a lot of credit for taking. He could fight him while he is still inexperienced and he could win too. Or he should fight Thurman and Cotto's body shots would ko Thurman. One thing that Thurman can't take, and he has shown this in multiple fights, is body shots. He just can't take it to the body.
                      This Cotto would get destroyed. Prime Cotto 50/50.

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