I think GGG is past it

**richardt** · 09-17-2017, 11:53 AM

He has looked like a middle-aged man to me lately, and he is a middle-aged man with the way his skin is not has hydrated and not as flexible and is pulled tighter and the color tone on the appearance side of things. As to his game, his accuracy outside of the jab and his cutting off the ring has suffered. Father time waits for almost no one. Combination of better comp and aging has made things difficult for him. A 30 year old version of him last night would have been more decisive in his movement and speed of footwork. I like him a lot, really good guy, but it's time for the new crop to come along.

**JaguaresMx** · 09-17-2017, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by RussTBE

Im not making excuses for his performance, i thought he won the fight and by about 3-4 rounds. I just dont feel like hes the same fighter he was a few years ago, hes lost a step. Maybe its the comp has gotten better but by the eye test he just doesnt look the same.

Hes not as quick, not as ripped physically no ****. He just doesnt have the same sharpness he used to have seems alot more sluggish in the way he boxes and moves and just doesnt seem to have the same snap on his shots. Hes still really good though.

That or he never fought a Jacobs or Canelo before

Or both

**TheBigLug** · 09-17-2017, 11:57 AM

Of course he is. Pretty much every fighter will have slipped a bit at 35 compared to their early 30s. I'm still not even convinced he made weight that well either, i believe it was more of a struggle than they let on and that's something that comes with age too. He did also enter camp in worse shape than usual.

You can definitely see he has aged a bit in the past 2 years, even in his face. Then again, he has just fought 2 genuine quality fighters back to back. Tell me any fighter that has gone to that level and kept on knocking guys out for fun. It doesn't happen.

Some might be age, but i think you have to factor in level of competition too.

He still had enough to beat Canelo 8-4 though anyway. GGG is the real deal, no question about that.

**SCEN3RY** · 09-17-2017, 12:01 PM

Yeah not nearly as sharp, he's slower with his hands and feet, and he's just overall more tentative (that I'd like to chalk up to comp more tho). Canelo at 27 fought the best version of Golovkin he could and still lost.

**Vlad_** · 09-17-2017, 12:03 PM

Prime Canelo got put in his place by 35 year old GGG.
But yes GGG is own the down slide...

**SplitSecond** · 09-17-2017, 12:05 PM

Doesnt slide on his feet like he used to, it has been declining every fight but I dont think I saw him do it once vs canelo. Doesn't punch off the backfoot like he used to. Basically, difficult time punching with power on the move thus a lot of arm punching and has a difficult time pulling the trigger on openings for a bodyshot. Moves weird now too, in that nelo fight he looked like a senior citizen.

**kidbazooka** · 09-17-2017, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Vlad_

Prime Canelo got put in his place by 35 year old GGG.
But yes GGG is own the down slide...

Haha

Other way around buddy.

Canelo schooled "the monster" ggg and will do it again.

**Johnny2x2x** · 09-17-2017, 12:07 PM

Looked the same to me, it's just stepping up in quality meant he got countered a lot and his power wasn't nearly as effective.

This is why you start fighting quality earlier in your career. GGG fought tomato cans most of his career, of course he looked better against them than Jacobs and Canelo.

Same way Mayweather had massive KO power fighting bums in his first 15 fights. GGG fought that level of bums until his 30th fight when he was 30+ years old. Heck, one of his more recent fights was with a guy on house arrest who took the fight in 2 weeks notice. Those are the kind of opponents you cut your teeth with in your first couple years, not guys you build a legacy with in your 30s.

**Raonic** · 09-17-2017, 12:10 PM

He's 35 so of course he's not going to be as strong.

I think GGG is past it