Every Major Media Outlet had GGG Winning the Fight

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  • boxinggod101
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    #61
    Originally posted by Panterita
    Canelo clearly won rounds 1,2,3,5,10,11,12
    lol oh god lol

    Mexican much?

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    • Eff Pandas
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      #62
      Originally posted by satiev1
      Do you realize that canelo only landed 4 more power punches but ggg outlanded him by 50 in total puches? LMAO.
      You realize boxing is scored by rounds & total anything is meaningless with how boxing is scored.

      And if you look at the rbr 11 of the 12 rounds have power punches landed by each guy being within 4 power punches of each other. The point of mentioning power punches is they tend to look harsher & thus historically seem to have more impact at steering the judges towards the guy landing more of them.

      And 10 of the 12 rounds have total punches landed by each guy being within 5 total punches of each other.

      It was a close fight is my bottom line. If you had GGG up or Canelo up thats whatever to me. I thought it was a legit draw & clearly within the margin of error of a draw or either guy winning.

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      • The Comic DON
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        #63
        Originally posted by JimRaynor
        Every serious news media analyst had GGG winning this fight. I know we have a lot of fanboys on this site, but I'd like that to sink in for a second. Virtually no one serious in boxing world thought Canelo won. That is unless you're a Boxingscene member who enjoys stuffing Canelos balls in his mouth.


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        Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
        Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
        Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
        Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
        Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
        Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
        Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
        Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
        Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
        Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
        Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
        Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
        Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
        MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
        Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
        Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
        Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
        Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
        Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
        Sergio Martinez-------------------------------> Golovkin
        Terrance Crawford -------------------------------> Golovkin
        Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
        James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
        Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
        Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
        Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
        Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
        Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
        Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
        De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
        Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo
        It baffles me how 85% of the boxing public sees one guy winning but somehow 2 of the 3 judges didn't.

        It's a mathematical wonder.

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        • Tha_Greatest
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          #64
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          Canelo is my favorite fighter now? Bro please stop.

          And who's arguing who anyone thought should win? I'm saying the people who scored the fight had it close & close within the margin of error for it to go either way or a draw & a draw is what we got.
          now you sund like canelo in spanish interviews, damn man , lol, im a canelo fan but your hate for ggg is really getting to you

          306 to 33 on the poll in favor of ggg winning that fight,

          canelo is still my favorite fighter and ggg is the guy you seriously hate

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          • The Comic DON
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            #65
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            You realize boxing is scored by rounds & total anything is meaningless with how boxing is scored.

            And if you look at the rbr 11 of the 12 rounds have power punches landed by each guy being within 4 power punches of each other. The point of mentioning power punches is they tend to look harsher & thus historically seem to have more impact at steering the judges towards the guy landing more of them.

            And 10 of the 12 rounds have total punches landed by each guy being within 5 total punches of each other.

            It was a close fight is my bottom line. If you had GGG up or Canelo up thats whatever to me. I thought it was a legit draw & clearly within the margin of error of a draw or either guy winning.
            What's your scorecard Eff? Round by round I mean.

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              #66
              It's not often I can say this these days, but I thought Lederman had it spot on. I agreed with him on every round. 116-112 Golovkin

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                #67
                This reminds me of Marquez-Pacquiao III. The majority of the fans and media guys saw a guy win but some dumbass judges and a small vocal minority are rewriting the narrative to make their guy somehow the victor.

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                • Jubei
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                  #68
                  Hahaha even the Telegraph had GGG winning, links are already in the thread.

                  That only leaves Oscar who had Canelo winning, Only Oscar!!

                  I am not mad at all, i am just laughing hysterically. Las Vegas and the NSAC, Boxing scoring in general when a cashcow is involved is just a complete corrupted circus act.

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                  • Jubei
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ComicDon
                    It baffles me how 85% of the boxing public sees one guy winning but somehow 2 of the 3 judges didn't.

                    It's a mathematical wonder.
                    Basic math, the 2 corrupted judges guys who had GGG winning got some nice $ paid under the table. Paying $50k for a scorecard is better than losing millions if your only cashcow loses a fight clearly.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JimRaynor
                      Every serious news media analyst had GGG winning this fight. I know we have a lot of fanboys on this site, but I'd like that to sink in for a second. Virtually no one serious in boxing world thought Canelo won. That is unless you're a Boxingscene member who enjoys stuffing Canelos balls in his mouth.


                      Edit.

                      Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
                      Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
                      Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
                      Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
                      Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
                      Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                      Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                      Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                      Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                      Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
                      Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                      Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
                      Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
                      Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
                      MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
                      Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
                      Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
                      Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
                      Sergio Martinez-------------------------------> Golovkin
                      Terrance Crawford -------------------------------> Golovkin
                      Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
                      James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
                      Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
                      Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
                      Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                      Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
                      Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
                      Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                      De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
                      Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo
                      A lot of mma guys on this here list. How did Ariel Helwani score it?

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