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  • P.K Dionysus
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    #1

    A neutral's (my) feelings on the fight.

    My feelings about the fight as a TRUE neutral.

    This fight was akin to busting immediately after entering the cookie, at least in my opinion. Satisfying, yet still unsatisfying.

    Alvarez and GGG had a competitive, and ultimately entertaining fight, but this fight was more about debunking myths than it was about establishing supremacy.

    The GGG hype train, which had slowed down somewhat after the Jacobs fight screeched to virtual crawling speed. People who were talking about him breaking Hopkins' record, going down as an ATF, as a HOFer, etc, them dudes are gonna have to slow down a bit, because when he went up against opponents who were a legit level above his previous ones (i.e Jacobs and Alvarez), he was shown to NOT be head and shoulders above everybody else in the division. I'm not saying he's BAD, I'm saying he flattered to deceive against weaker opposition in the past. Still a good fighter. The myth of him being one of, if not the greatest middleweight in history seems to have lost momentum.

    Alvarez. Well, again, he's a good fighter. Legitimately. He has skills. Problem is, they aren't as great as Khan, Smith, Kirkland, etc. made them appear to be. Like, if we were to use Floyd's interpretation of GGG having no "special effects", I'd say Canelo has "special effects", but if Floyd and Pac (previously), Loma and Rigo (currently) have Life of Pi's Richard Parker level special effects, in comparison Canelo has... Gods of Egypt level special effects. Like, they're pretty good. They also fade dramatically towards the end. His stamina, which was supposed to improve at this weight was still suspect, although that might change in the future.

    Anyway, on to the reason why I said it the fight was akin to a quick draw nut.

    The vociferous fanbases of either fighter constantly getting into threads and turning them into a constant back and forth got real old, real quick. The fight revealed that neither was as good as either fanbase touted (although I think they're still two of the best fighters and biggest names in the sport). The big issue, is that due to there being no outright winner, both fanbases are likely to continue with the back and forth until there's a definitive winner.

    Personally, I was hoping for a double KO. Both dudes floor each other at the same time, and don't get up. I feel like that outcome would be the only satisfactory one for me, because we would no longer see all these damn threads filled with vitriol and ****. Might even get the haters/trolls to stop flooding us with annoying threads as well.

    PS: How was the undercard?
  • Vegemil
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    #2
    Originally posted by P.K Dionysus

    PS: How was the undercard?
    Got to see Diaz's lack of power really come out. I think Russell will knock him out. Diego De La Hoya was the same case.

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    • SilverMiles
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      #3
      Originally posted by P.K Dionysus
      My feelings about the fight as a TRUE neutral.

      This fight was akin to busting immediately after entering the cookie, at least in my opinion. Satisfying, yet still unsatisfying.

      Alvarez and GGG had a competitive, and ultimately entertaining fight, but this fight was more about debunking myths than it was about establishing supremacy.

      The GGG hype train, which had slowed down somewhat after the Jacobs fight screeched to virtual crawling speed. People who were talking about him breaking Hopkins' record, going down as an ATF, as a HOFer, etc, them dudes are gonna have to slow down a bit, because when he went up against opponents who were a legit level above his previous ones (i.e Jacobs and Alvarez), he was shown to NOT be head and shoulders above everybody else in the division. I'm not saying he's BAD, I'm saying he flattered to deceive against weaker opposition in the past. Still a good fighter. The myth of him being one of, if not the greatest middleweight in history seems to have lost momentum.

      Alvarez. Well, again, he's a good fighter. Legitimately. He has skills. Problem is, they aren't as great as Khan, Smith, Kirkland, etc. made them appear to be. Like, if we were to use Floyd's interpretation of GGG having no "special effects", I'd say Canelo has "special effects", but if Floyd and Pac (previously), Loma and Rigo (currently) have Life of Pi's Richard Parker level special effects, in comparison Canelo has... Gods of Egypt level special effects. Like, they're pretty good. They also fade dramatically towards the end. His stamina, which was supposed to improve at this weight was still suspect, although that might change in the future.

      Anyway, on to the reason why I said it the fight was akin to a quick draw nut.

      The vociferous fanbases of either fighter constantly getting into threads and turning them into a constant back and forth got real old, real quick. The fight revealed that neither was as good as either fanbase touted (although I think they're still two of the best fighters and biggest names in the sport). The big issue, is that due to there being no outright winner, both fanbases are likely to continue with the back and forth until there's a definitive winner.

      Personally, I was hoping for a double KO. Both dudes floor each other at the same time, and don't get up. I feel like that outcome would be the only satisfactory one for me, because we would no longer see all these damn threads filled with vitriol and ****. Might even get the haters/trolls to stop flooding us with annoying threads as well.

      PS: How was the undercard?
      He's still in place to break Hopkins record, he's still champion last I checked.

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      • j0zef
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        #4
        So your argument is because neither one showed himself to be much better than the other, they're both overrated and basically trash?

        Or is it because they're both really, really good?

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        • P.K Dionysus
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          #5
          Originally posted by Vegemil
          Got to see Diaz's lack of power really come out. I think Russell will knock him out. Diego De La Hoya was the same case.
          Okay, cool.

          I actually got up to go watch the undercard, sat on the couch, and then found myself waking up conveniently as Canelo walked out. Honestly, lol.

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          • BrometheusBob.
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            #6
            OK so when I sober up I promise I'll consider reading the OP

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            • -Antonio-
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              #7
              Golovkin did prove to be head and shoulders above Canelo considering he won the fight clearly.

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              • P.K Dionysus
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                #8
                Originally posted by j0zef
                So your argument is because neither one showed himself to be much better than the other, they're both overrated and basically trash?

                Or is it because they're both really, really good?
                Overrated is an overused phrase.

                Neither is as good as their respective fans and the media would have you believe, and neither is definitively better than the other.

                Both are good, neither is spectacular.

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                • P.K Dionysus
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  He's still in place to break Hopkins record, he's still champion last I checked.
                  You ain't lying. But if he continues fighting opposition at the level of, or even slightly below fighters like Jacobs and Canelo, it'll be a much tougher ask.

                  That said, if dudes of that level step up to fight him, are beaten, and he breaks the record, that'll be dope.

                  Records are there to be broken, after all.

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                  • j0zef
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by P.K Dionysus
                    Overrated is an overused phrase.

                    Neither is as good as their respective fans and the media would have you believe, and neither is definitively better than the other.

                    Both are good, neither is spectacular.
                    Again, that's a cop-out way of looking at it. I think they're both really, really good.

                    Neither one of us has a way of proving each other wrong.

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