Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas: Golovkin Has Declined, Exposed as One-Dimensional

[Mukuro]

Teddy Atlas... is that the guy blowing himself on ESPN every other Friday?

[bronx7]

Teddy read healing back pain by dr Sarno helped thousands subconscious things bothering you give you pain mostly in back to distract you from facing what is really bothering you

[GhostofDempsey]

How does an exposed one-dimensional fighter only lose by split decision? Shouldn't an improved Canelo win by a much wider margin over an exposed, one-dimensional fighter who is on the decline?

[bronx7]

Yes even your stenosis

[bronx7]

GGG doesn't win hundreds of amateur and Olympic fights plus go untested with one dimension Jacobs ran half the fight fought at end too late 8-4 ggg plus oh yeah knockdown early which made him go on bicycle

[bronx7]

I can name a few dimensions mw best power mw best jab power accuracy throw land rate mw best cutting off ring mw best body puncher with ko results mw best chin

[Boxing Logic]

"I know Golovkin trains up at Big Bear in high altitude, and science has proven that if you train at high altitude and you live and sleep at high altitude, it's really counterproductive. Now that's for runners and things like that, but we have seen Golovkin kind of get tired sometimes in the middle rounds, and you know, then you say well, OK, what does that mean, well when Shane was training up at Big Bear, we would see Shane get tired, we would see Oscar get tired sometimes in the middle rounds. They would come back with a second wind, but they'd have some rounds where they would be tired, and high altitude has a tendency to do that to you. Now, if you train at high altitude and live and rest at sea level, it's productive." -- Virgil Hunter

Sounds like Abel Sanchez and Team GGG's ignorance about Sports Science may have ruined GGG during what should have been the peak of his career. We'll find out tonight, but what Virgil said is the same thing Victor Conte has said, and it makes perfect sense. Additionally, both Sergey Kovalev and Roman Gonzalez trained at Big Bear this year and last year ahead of five of the six worst performances of their careers. The only one that doesn't qualify is Roman's fight last weekend, but by that point the damage from training at Big Bear the two years prior could have already been done.

Heck, I guess for all the GGG haters who hate Abel even more than GGG, it's kind of sweet poetic justice that Abel himself may have ruined GGG. I do think he's a good technical coach, but technique and tactics can be adjusted... nothing is worse, or more permanent for a fighter, than ****ing up his biology and his muscle fibers so badly due to ignorance about sports science that his reflexes and stamina are no longer the same, because then all the technique and tactics in the world aren't going to save him if he doesn't have the reflexes or stamina to compete at the top level anymore.

So IF that is the case, and what Virgil and Conte have said makes sense to me as a layman anyway, then Abel is basically ruining careers up at Big Bear, and that could explain why GGG's punches have been less snappy, and he's been breathing so hard after only 5 or 6 rounds in many fights lately (ring a bell, Kovalev?), the last few years of fights. Maybe fighters muscle fibers and tissue in their twenties regenerate so quickly that they can overcome the high altitude, but once they hit their thirties, or spend too many years in altitude, they can no longer overcome the lack of oxygen in the air during sleep recovery, and their muscle fibers start to degenerate as a result.

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

I was going to say that Teddy Atlas is entitled to his educated opinion, but he can't possibly have a valid argument if the experienced experts here are refuting everything he says.

[Floyd is TBE]

Straight up and down. No special effects.

[megas30]

I don't think he has declined. I felt, over the last two fights, he was in there with better boxers than he is used to, and also boxers who have the pop to keep him honest. The one-dimensional thing is debatable, but i wouldn't argue with someone's perspective on that.