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  • Gunpowdergreg
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    Buy The Way what is a "true Middleweight"? GGG Canelo?

    Were the great Sugar Ray Robinson, Marvelous Marvin, Bernard Hopkins, Harry Greb, Carlos Monzone, Jake LaMotto true middleweight? We know most fought in several divisions but were they true MW? Does a true MW walk around at 180 or 165 or weigh-in the day of fight at 160 or the day before at 160? So by today's standards are GGG and Canelo "true Middleweights"?
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    When they changed the rules from weighing in about 8 hours before the fight to weighing in 32 hours before the fight the weight of a true middleweight went up about 10 pounds. A big middleweight today like Danny Jacobs could never have fought as a middleweight if he fought in the same day weigh in days. He would have had to competed at 168 or 175. He couldn't weigh in at 160 and be ready to fight well 8 hours later. He would need that extra day to gain back the water weight he lost to make 160.

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    • boliodogs
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      GGG and Canelo would have a very hard time making 160 in the same day weigh in days. They might be forced to fight at 168. We know they come into the ring at 170 give or take a pound or two. Jacobs was never weight on the night he fought GGG but many guessed his weight at 180 pounds or a light heavyweight in the old days.

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      • W1LL
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        To be fair, Gennady Golovkin has weighed in at Middleweight for every fight of his career, bar two. For those two he weighed 161 and 161¼. He is a career Middleweight and most definately a "true" Middleweight. In comparison, Kell Brook or Amir Khan are not true Middleweights. Saul Alvarez has grown into a true Middleweight but he continued to boil down to fight smaller fighters.

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          It's a myth from dumbasses that older fighters were bigger and stronger than today's fighters competing in the same weight class. They were a lot smaller back in the day. A welterweight today is around the size of a same day weigh in middleweight. A middleweight today is around the size of a light heavyweight back then.

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            #6
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            When they changed the rules from weighing in about 8 hours before the fight to weighing in 32 hours before the fight the weight of a true middleweight went up about 10 pounds. A big middleweight today like Danny Jacobs could never have fought as a middleweight if he fought in the same day weigh in days. He would have had to competed at 168 or 175. He couldn't weigh in at 160 and be ready to fight well 8 hours later. He would need that extra day to gain back the water weight he lost to make 160.
            Boliodogs dropping knowledge as always, one of the best posters here.

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