An unbiased take on "the record" from a Mayweather Jr. fan..

[hateinyaeyes32]

As a fan of mayweather, he does hold the "record" of most wins without a loss or draw for a whole career. But I think the real record for fighters to chase would be 87-0, and try to beat that. I'm pretty sure no one ever won 87 consecutive fights to start a career, regardless of competition. The only problems with chasing this record are 1. The difficulty of winning 87 straight fights, 2. The time it would take, and 3. If a fighter did want to take that time, they'd have to start at a very young age and wait a while before stepping up competition level.. Which will not only effect the boxers development, but also hurt his wallet in the short term.. When it comes down to real fighters, they're in this to get paid, not to set records. That's why the 87-0 will probably never be touched, or even sniffed. And that is why people will choose to forget about 87-0 and look for guys to chase 50-0. That being said, 50-0 is no cake walk either if a fighter goes through the competition that Floyd Jr. did.

[The Big Dunn]

50-0 is not a record. 87-0 is not a record. As people with accounts on this site we need to stop letting ESPN shape how we see the sport.

They dumb everything down to a "record" because casual fans get get excited and tend to stay tuned in if they think they are witnessing "history" live. It also is used by the network as a marketing/promotional tool.

It's great that ESPN is more involved in boxing at the highest level but I am not going to let them tell me how to think about or see the sport.

[hateinyaeyes32]

50-0 is not a record. 87-0 is not a record. As people with accounts on this site we need to stop letting ESPN shape how we see the sport.

They dumb everything down to a "record" because casual fans get get excited and tend to stay tuned in if they think they are witnessing "history" live. It also is used by the network as a marketing/promotional tool.

It's great that ESPN is more involved in boxing at the highest level but I am not going to let them tell me how to think about or see the sport.

I watch no ESPN, and I'm not a casual fan. Also, yes they both are records, in more than one instance of the word.

[The Big Dunn]

I watch no ESPN, and I'm not a casual fan. Also, yes they both are records, in more than one instance of the word.

I wasn't implying you were a casual fan but I was surprised to see someone with a 2010 join date refer to either as records.

Respectfully, I disagree. IMO they are benchmarks, not records like a HR record or the 100 yd dash record. Maybe I'm just old school.

I do think if you take a young talent like Gervonta, Valdez or Benavidez (just naming a few there are more), turn them pro at 18 and have them fight every 2 -4 weeks against 90/10 or 80/20 level comp then I think you can easily eclipse either benchmark.

[JRB123]

I wasn't implying you were a casual fan but I was surprised to see someone with a 2010 join date refer to either as records.

Respectfully, I disagree. IMO they are benchmarks, not records like a HR record or the 100 yd dash record. Maybe I'm just old school.

I do think if you take a young talent like Gervonta, Valdez or Benavidez (just naming a few there are more), turn them pro at 18 and have them fight every 2 -4 weeks against 90/10 or 80/20 level comp then I think you can easily eclipse either benchmark.

The problem is that the state of the sport nowadays will not have fighters come close to that amount of fights...especially an American fighter

Back then many boxers had to accumulate that many fights in order to make bank. It's not the case now

Plus on many occasions in order to have fights very often they had to fight opponents on short notice and then have the fight sanctioned by athletic commissions. Safety is a growing issue in the sport so having so many fights in succession is more difficult now

[DuckAdonis]

Just put up a great fight and give your all, that should be your mentality as a fighter. Not everyone can be like Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

The problem is that the state of the sport nowadays will not have fighters come close to that amount of fights...especially an American fighter

Back then many boxers had to accumulate that many fights in order to make bank. It's not the case now

Plus on many occasions in order to have fights very often they had to fight opponents on short notice and then have the fight sanctioned by athletic commissions. Safety is a growing issue in the sport so having so many fights in succession is more difficult now

Good post. Greenk sent. You are right, especially for American fighters.

[Johnny2x2x]

87-0 was not impressive. 85 bums out of 87 fights.

I think Floyd is smart to downplay 50-0, that's not his most impressive achievement. 50-0 vs 26+ champions and 30+ quality opponents while only coming close to losing twice is what's the best achievement in the sport of boxing's history. Floyd for the title against possible future HOFer in Genaro Hernandez in only his 18th fight, after that he did not fight a single bum until McGregor. People can say he didn't fight any prime All time greats all they want, Floyd fought only guys that were in the top 2 or 3 in their weight class his who career after getting warmed up, each and every one of them was a risk.

[E-Thug]

50-0 is not a record. 87-0 is not a record. As people with accounts on this site we need to stop letting ESPN shape how we see the sport.

They dumb everything down to a "record" because casual fans get get excited and tend to stay tuned in if they think they are witnessing "history" live. It also is used by the network as a marketing/promotional tool.

It's great that ESPN is more involved in boxing at the highest level but I am not going to let them tell me how to think about or see the sport.

This, this and this a million times

There is no such thing as "the record" as the media and these casuals were pushing it as. How can it be "the record" when boxing doesn't even have a official governing body? Who sets the record, FIFA? WWE? The UFC? ESPN? Mayweather Promotions? Matchroom? Some other sporting entity?

For all we know, there's a guy out there from Uganda or Slovakia who's happily retired with a 100-0 record. But we don't know because there's no official authority on these records.

It's a record and with each record, it's each fighter's alone. Mayweather is 50-0, that's HIS record, his legacy, his greatness. He shouldn't have to be involved in chasing another man's legacy or as you put it "record".

Mainstream boxing is going to be painful the next couple of years man. You just know they're going to say **** like "Oh Spence is great but can he surpass 50-0?", "Crawford is special but can he beat Floyd's record" etc etc etc everything will be about "the record"

[Larry the boss]