The Way Gonzalez Fought Was Embarrassing

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  • New England
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    #71
    Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
    And Duran started in 122 pounds.

    And Canelo started in welterweight.

    Gonzalez was a very big fighter in 105-108 pounds, his time in those weight was quick...

    He is a natural 112 pounds.

    gonzales didn't move to 112 until he'd been a pro for seven years. canelo turned pro when he was literally a boy, and duran was a starving street kid from panama.


    you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #72
      Originally posted by Idunnoshet
      ALOT of boxing fans didn't know who Rungvisai was before the first Choco fight even though he gave Cuadras hell in their first fight and lost a fight he was coming on strong in . Cuadras himself said before the first fight that he feared Rungvisai would knock Choco out before Cuadras gets his rematch .
      Turns out he was right, lol.

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #73
        Originally posted by New England
        gonzales didn't move to 112 until he'd been a pro for seven years. canelo turned pro when he was literally a boy, and duran was a starving street kid from panama.


        you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.
        Poor ignorant, first fight of Gonzalez in 112 pounds it was vs Miguel Tellez IN 2008.

        This guy no way in hell is a natural 105 pounds or 108.

        He is a natural 112 pounds.

        And before the fight vs Cuadras, he had fights in 116 pounds. "peeleft:

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        • -Kev-
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          #74
          Originally posted by thecomedian2
          Styles makes fight you POS, Roman is a pressure fighter, Rugvisai is a brick wall that does not fold under pressure and instead throws bombs while being pressured.. Chocolatito has actually never faced such boxers, every one else he faced folded under pressure, including Estrada, Cuadras.
          What?

          I don't think you know what folding under pressure means.

          I had RG-Cuadras a draw and so did many other people.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #75
            Yea it was embarrassing

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              #76
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Why was he shot? Trouble making weight? Blocking punches with his face against Rungvisai and Cuadras?

              Never seen fans go from "he was robbed" six months ago to "he fought a bigger stronger guy" "he was shot" when he fought the same guy 6 months ago

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              • KillaCamNZ
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                #77
                ****ing hell people are quick to run fighters down.

                There's been 10 times as much beating on Roman than there has been praise for Sor.

                Why can't people just be happy with results that stimulate debate? You tall poppy syndrome mother****ers want to bury everyone and everything.

                Oh right - most of you can't be happy. You need to hate. Sad ****ers.

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                • siablo14
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Ganstaz003
                  Size matters in boxing. Thus, weight divisions exist. Claiming size is irrelevant is false! A boxer who is higher in the P4P list is more likely to lose than win against a heavier boxer in a higher weight division who is at the top of his division's ranking but is lower in terms of the P4P rankings. A more skilled lighter boxer will lose to a significantly heavier boxer who is less skilled. This fight proved one main thing, which is the bravery, heart and courage of Roman Gonzalez since he didn't even have to move up that much in weight above his own natural weight division in the first place. It also proved how significant size is when determining the outcomes of boxing bouts between boxers of a similar skill level.
                  He had to move up if he wanted bigger pay days. Remember him complaining that he should be paid more.

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                  • Mr Objecitivity
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Code Red
                    So put Rungvisai and Gonzalez at 112 and your telling me Gonzalez wins? You saying you only saw a size difference? Did you not also see a skill difference? I did
                    Rungvisai is physically the bigger man in size. So unless he is drained, I ALWAYS expect his size to be a big factor.

                    Of course skills were also a factor. I never claimed that size was the ONLY factor. It was the combination of size + skill. Roman Gonzalez and Rungvisai were relatively evenly matched in terms of skills. This is why the bigger man (in this case Rungvisai) had the advantage and won.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by siablo14
                      He had to move up if he wanted bigger pay days. Remember him complaining that he should be paid more.
                      I know what you mean! It's a shame that a boxer is FORCED to move up above his natural weight division to make the money he deserves. They should be getting the deserved money by fighting in their own weight division.

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