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  • #41
    You can't compare the two.

    Pac was on top vs Marquez but you could see Marquez measuring him for the punch that he got him with. It wasn't a fluke that it landed, it was something like the third time he tried it in that fight and he finally got it home.

    Big difference is that whatever the outcomes, Pac was there mentally for the Marquez fight. Sure he got KOed, and had to rebuild both mentally and physically, but he did.

    Gonzalez wasn't there mentally for this fight, he'd lost before he got in the ring. The sky commentators picked up on what they called 'nervousness' in the dressing room, and with the look on his face before the fight even started, everyone could smell something was up. He didn't just lose, he never even got into the fight. Point being that unless he gets back mentally, he needs to stay away. If he can get it back mentally and get the hunger back, then he can be a force again - he didn't take a physical beating in the fight, he got a psychological beat-down from whatever low point he was at before the fight started. Might be a long hill to climb.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by angkag View Post
      You can't compare the two.

      Pac was on top vs Marquez but you could see Marquez measuring him for the punch that he got him with. It wasn't a fluke that it landed, it was something like the third time he tried it in that fight and he finally got it home.

      Big difference is that whatever the outcomes, Pac was there mentally for the Marquez fight. Sure he got KOed, and had to rebuild both mentally and physically, but he did.

      Gonzalez wasn't there mentally for this fight, he'd lost before he got in the ring. The sky commentators picked up on what they called 'nervousness' in the dressing room, and with the look on his face before the fight even started, everyone could smell something was up. He didn't just lose, he never even got into the fight. Point being that unless he gets back mentally, he needs to stay away. If he can get it back mentally and get the hunger back, then he can be a force again - he didn't take a physical beating in the fight, he got a psychological beat-down from whatever low point he was at before the fight started. Might be a long hill to climb.
      Marquez also had Memo's PEDs - so Marquez was taking a lot of punishment and had been knocked down in the fight as well...

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      • #43
        Marquez never got lucky against Pacquaio. He knocked him down in rd 3 and then caught him beautifully in rd 6 and that was all she wrote. He had Pacquaio's number over the majority of four fights.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by R-C View Post
          I think the writer is trying to say that Manny was wining against Marquez and Roman was getting beat up from the get go.
          Sad that you had to explain that to the poster.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Liondw View Post
            Marquez never got lucky against Pacquaio. He knocked him down in rd 3 and then caught him beautifully in rd 6 and that was all she wrote. He had Pacquaio's number over the majority of four fights.
            He lost all 3 fights LOL. How do you have someone's number because you lost close?

            After Memo upped his PED intake all of sudden he had more power... A guy who was never a knock out artist KO'd Pac when Pac had more weight on him.... GTOH...

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            • #46
              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View Post
              He lost all 3 fights LOL. How do you have someone's number because you lost close?

              After Memo upped his PED intake all of sudden he had more power... A guy who was never a knock out artist KO'd Pac when Pac had more weight on him.... GTOH...
              You're as ****** as they come.

              Not only did Marquez tested clean throughout his whole career in every urine and blood test he took part... But Marquez was knocking out undefeated fighters through all his years of fighting.
              40 KO's out of 56 Wins.

              Get your ****** ass outta here.

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              • #47
                Not sure if he's on the level of a Pac-Man... and I have seen smaller Fighters boxing the outside against longer Fighters throughout history more recently watching Mayweather do it when most of the times he's a smaller guy and Pernell Whitaker did it for years so it is possible and I believe he would have had a much better chance to hang on the outside against the Asian guy who was pretty much another slow footed powerful fighter. , the truly great Fighters know how to fight going forward or backwards

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                • #48
                  The difference is that Pacquaio didn't take a lot of punishment in his career. In Chocolatito's last two fights, prior to the rematch, he ate ate 257 punches against Cuadras and 284 against Rungvisai in their first fight. That's 541 absorbed punches in two fights and it's a lot of punishment.

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                  • #49
                    By a future Hall of Famer and ATG.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                      The difference is that Pacquaio didn't take a lot of punishment in his career. In Chocolatito's last two fights, prior to the rematch, he ate ate 257 punches against Cuadras and 284 against Rungvisai in their first fight. That's 541 absorbed punches in two fights and it's a lot of punishment.
                      Ummm... Pac been taking punches his whole career due to his style... He took a lot of punishment in the Margarito, Clottey fights. Even though he dominated them, they were much bigger than him and hurt him.

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