Chocolatito was always overrated

[uppercut510]

What does Ward have to do with this thread? And what has Ward done that eclipses Gonzalez? Remain undefeated? That appears to be the only criteria for greatness among the casuals.

he moved up in weight and won fights against the top in the division. and his resume is way better, roman is good but are u seriously asking that question?

[GhostofDempsey]

he moved up in weight and won fights against the top in the division. and his resume is way better, roman is good but are u seriously asking that question?

What better names? Froch, Kovalev? You guys need to make you your minds. First Kovalev is an overrated bum, now all of the sudden he's an elite class world-beater just because Ward has two victories over him...one gift and one dirty fight.

The rest of Ward's resume is spotty. Abraham is a B-rate brawler, Dawson was drained at 168 and was never a great fighter to begin with. He fouled the shyt out Kessler, opened up four cuts on his head/face with elbows and headbutts.

Gonzalez is a champ in four weight classes. Got robbed in his previous loss and basically aged overnight. Smaller weight classes age quicker. They don't carry their speed with them as they hit 30 and older. He has 16 more fights than Ward too. Don't think those fights won't age you faster.

[uppercut510]

What better names? Froch, Kovalev? You guys need to make you your minds. First Kovalev is an overrated bum, now all of the sudden he's an elite class world-beater just because Ward has two victories over him...one gift and one dirty fight.

The rest of Ward's resume is spotty. Abraham is a B-rate brawler, Dawson was drained at 168 and was never a great fighter to begin with. He fouled the shyt out Kessler, opened up four cuts on his head/face with elbows and headbutts.

Gonzalez is a champ in four weight classes. Got robbed in his previous loss and basically aged overnight. Smaller weight classes age quicker. They don't carry their speed with them as they hit 30 and older. He has 16 more fights than Ward too. Don't think those fights won't age you faster.

lol so now roman has a better resume than ward and kov is a bum, gotcha, have a good day brother

[GhostofDempsey]

lol so now roman has a better resume than ward and kov is a bum, gotcha, have a good day brother

I'm not the one calling Kov a bum, but a lot of Ward fans did/do. Not sure how he gets so much credit for beating a guy they claim is a hype job.

Roman does have a better resume. Cuadras and Estrada are better P4P than Kov and Froch. Viloria is better than Dawson, Bika, Allan Green and the rest of the cans that Ward beat in his 32 fights.

[uppercut510]

I'm not the one calling Kov a bum, but a lot of Ward fans did/do. Not sure how he gets so much credit for beating a guy they claim is a hype job.

Roman does have a better resume. Cuadras and Estrada are better P4P than Kov and Froch. Viloria is better than Dawson, Bika, Allan Green and the rest of the cans that Ward beat in his 32 fights.

ok man u right..........

[baya]

this shit thread right here, boy!

[siablo14]

What does Ward have to do with this thread? And what has Ward done that eclipses Gonzalez? Remain undefeated? That appears to be the only criteria for greatness among the casuals.

Ward went up and beat the man in the division above his. Not once but twice.

[GhostofDempsey]

Ward went up and beat the man in the division above his. Not once but twice.

Roman own titles in four weight classes. Ward loved to LHW by demanding a catch weight for journeyman Paul Smith.

[siablo14]

Roman own titles in four weight classes. Ward loved to LHW by demanding a catch weight for journeyman Paul Smith.

I saw your other responses so I got you views. Just remember who is p4p #1.

[iamboxing]

He wasn't overrated. It's hard to lose your belt and then motivate yourself again to get back to the top again. The first loss just ****** all the confidence out of him.