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  • MulaKO
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    Problems for Bob and TR

    ARUM AND OPERATION "DON'T BEAT JEFF HORN"
    By Paul Magno | September 01, 2017ARUM AND OPERATION
    The plan was to have Jeff Horn fight Manny Pacquiao this November in a rematch of the highly-controversial July ESPN heist that saw “the fighting school teacher” maul his way to the WBO welterweight title via unanimous decision. Instead, the mission is now to somehow keep the likeable Australian unbeaten until plans can play out and maximum profit can be achieved.

    A packed agenda has forced Pacquiao into removing himself from the contractually obliged rematch this fall, in favor of a first half of 2018 date. However, with a November bout already in the books for Horn and home country interests chomping at the bit to show off their brand new champ, it looks as though Team Horn and co-promoter, Arum, are stuck with the unenviable task of finding a top 10 welterweight that the guy can actually beat.

    Yes, Horn is game and plucky and all of the other adjectives used for under-talented, big-hearted, but ultimately low-ceiling pugs. But, honestly, he’s just not even remotely close to being an elite-level welter. The fact that he beat Pacquiao (and he really didn’t) could be chalked up to many factors, from poor judging to an overconfident Pacquiao to a rough, awkward style that threw Pacquiao off and gave the appearance that he was winning rounds that he wasn’t—maybe it was ALL of those factors—but Horn is not better than Pacquiao and he’s not better than ANY of the top 147-pounders.

    So, if Horn is to pass the belt back to Pacquiao in another spirited affair, precipitating a third (and even more lucrative in-house fight) or if he’s to “beat” Manny again and be fed to the welterweight-bound Terence Crawford, then he has to make it to 2018.

    Luckily for his team, the WBO welterweight rankings are the weakest of all the four sanctioning bodies’ rankings. Outside of Pacquiao in the no. 1 slot and Lucas Matthysse at no. 2, the WBO top 10 is full of oddities and question marks, such as Taras Shelestyuk (no. 6) and Adrian Luciano Veron (no. 8), among others.

    In a division packed with so much talent and so many accomplished fighters, the names listed in the WBO’s official rankings defy common sense. But, realistically, even when choosing from THIS list, Arum and Team Horn won’t find anyone that their guy can 100%, without doubt and without “help,” beat. Horn against anyone is going to be a crapshoot—and that likely makes a sharp old pro like Arum extremely uncomfortable.

    Barring some rankings razzle dazzle sleight of hand to suddenly produce an utterly inept, supremely beatable fall guy for Horn’s fall date, his people are going to have to roll the dice, match him up with the most modestly-able contender currently allowable, and hope that Horn can “Horn” his way to another win.

    If they can’t get him through November, all plans fall to pieces—Pacquiao is without a safe dance partner and Crawford will have to look elsewhere for his first trial horse opponent and paper title.

    It should be interesting to see how this plays out and who gets the call for Horn’s first defense.
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    Bob will be up to some old tricks that's for sure

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    • Eff Pandas
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      Operation Don't Beat Jeff Horn. Goodluck with that f#cking mission.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Operation Don't Beat Jeff Horn. Goodluck with that f#cking mission.
        Couldn't have said it better myself
        Lmfao

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        • Randall Cunning
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          What are they planning to do with Crawford then? See when the WBO made him a Super Champion he automatically becomes mandatory when he moves up, just trash fights for a year?

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          • soul_survivor
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            Horn could beat some of the guys we see littered around the top 20 lol, let's make out like he is a total bum. He has teh size to make an ugly scrap against Porter and to posisbly win. Both are limited but tough and busy. DG has been lethargic and bored for years now, a hungry Horn could possibly take him. Vargas v Horn would be a barn stormer.

            Lets not make the division out to be better than it is. Its good but only gets great once TC arrives.

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              Originally posted by Randall Cunning
              What are they planning to do with Crawford then? See when the WBO made him a Super Champion he automatically becomes mandatory when he moves up, just trash fights for a year?
              I don't even know. I mean I gotta figure they are just trying to cash in on Horn with his Aussie 55k fans + popularity realizing he's not THAT good. My assumption would be they are hoping Horn wins over some Vargas type guy then drops the title back to Manny in the rematch & then Crawford beats Manny. Or Horn drops the belt to Crawford after a Vargas type guy & then Manny either has to fight Crawford or call it a career or maybe he could still have a Horn rematch with both as ex-title holders.

              That seems like you are having Crawford hold his **** for like 6mos to year at 147 doe. Whats the point of that? Crawford could beat Horn tomorrow for the belt.

              I was calling for Crawford to get pushed to the front of the line & everything was lining up that way for a minute, but then all of a sudden Horn become someone of stature or something for TR & he can't simply be fed to Crawford it seems like.

              LOL boxing is f#cking nuts. Could be talking about who's the best Spence vs Thurman vs Crawford by January with all 3 being 1, 2 & 3 with all the belts at 147, but nah gotta cash in on the Aussie dude who can't really fight & leave the guy going for his 3rd weight division belt standing in line like he's just some random guy.

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                #8
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Horn could beat some of the guys we see littered around the top 20 lol, let's make out like he is a total bum. He has teh size to make an ugly scrap against Porter and to posisbly win. Both are limited but tough and busy. DG has been lethargic and bored for years now, a hungry Horn could possibly take him. Vargas v Horn would be a barn stormer.

                Lets not make the division out to be better than it is. Its good but only gets great once TC arrives.
                147 is always a pretty f#cking good division. Its one of the divisions with the most people in it for one thing which is part of it. Gotta go through a lot of mfers to be in the top 50 at 147 let alone the top 10, a title holder or the #1 guy.

                But sh^t man it sounds like Bud is at 147 now, but he won't really be arriving til he fights for a title & it sounds like Arum is in no hurry to get Crawford he's 3rd weight division title which makes no damn sense to me even if Horn can sell some tickets in his country. I just send Crawford to Australia & sell out 50k+ tickets again, then setup Horn vs Manny II in Australia when Manny's ready for a fight between ex-champs. Selling a lot of tickets for that & maybe can even turn Crawford into a more popular guy by having him school Horn on Horn's turf + might be able to setup a late career trilogy for Manny if Manny would rather avoid Bud.

                Idk, but the way this seems like its being steered is just in the wrong direction.

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                • Xi_
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  Horn could beat some of the guys we see littered around the top 20 lol, let's make out like he is a total bum. He has teh size to make an ugly scrap against Porter and to posisbly win. Both are limited but tough and busy. DG has been lethargic and bored for years now, a hungry Horn could possibly take him. Vargas v Horn would be a barn stormer.

                  Lets not make the division out to be better than it is. Its good but only gets great once TC arrives.
                  Horn is a ****ing bum....you're only hyping him cause manny lost to him.

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    That's right up there for me with operation "stick my **** in Gal Gadot"

                    Neither are very likely to happen to say the least.

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