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  • NahMean
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    #31
    Originally posted by iamboxing
    “We had an exception to fight [Eric] Molina, then we had an exception via a unification to fight [Wladimir] Klitschko and now we’re out [of exceptions]. We’ve got no more chances. But to be honest if we had a voluntary, Pulev would be the guy we’d be looking at anyway… It’s a really good fight.”

    Not a good fight at all. Shows the mentality of AJ's team. Fight as many cans as possible until all options are exhausted.
    Lol.. Everyone complaining about how bad this fight is. But fact is Pulev is still better than anyone in Wilder's resume!

    He's had damn near 40 fights.. And everyone is complaining about AJ's 20th opponent being so poor but he's still better than the 40 cans Wilder has fought. That just goes to show how less we think of Wilder.

    But I get it, we all know AJ is the best boxer at heavyweight so we except more from him.
    Last edited by NahMean; 09-02-2017, 07:51 AM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by NahMean
      Lol.. Everyone complaining about how bad this fight is. But fact is Pulev is still better than anyone in Wilder's resume!

      He's had damn near 40 fights.. And everyone is complaining about AJ's 20th opponent being so poor but he's still better than the 40 cans Wilder has fought. That just goes to show how less we think of Wilder.

      But I get it, we all know AJ is the best boxer at heavyweight so we except more from him.
      When was Kubrat Pulev a world champion? was he ever ranked a high as #2. in the world? a real killer at 36 years old already sparked by Klitschko, A.J's leftovers.

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      • JRB123
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        #33
        Originally posted by NahMean
        Lol.. Everyone complaining about how bad this fight is. But fact is Pulev is still better than anyone in Wilder's resume!

        He's had damn near 40 fights.. And everyone is complaining about AJ's 20th opponent being so poor but he's still better than the 40 cans Wilder has fought. That just goes to show how less we think of Wilder.

        But I get it, we all know AJ is the best boxer at heavyweight so we except more from him.
        Pulev will be the 2nd top ten fighter that AJ will have faced in 20 professional fights. TBRB has him ranked #5 right now. The Premier Boxing Organization has him at #6.

        The thing is that he isn't taking a year plus to fight his mandatories...

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        • TBear
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          #34
          I just checked the WBA rankings for January 2014 and Ortiz was the top contender. He has been ever since.
          Over two years.

          These are the WBA rankings in 2016 while Fury held the title over a year ago;


          I personally don't think he can beat Joshua but he does have a solid argument about getting his mandatory title shot.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 1hourRun
            When was Kubrat Pulev a world champion? was he ever ranked a high as #2. in the world? a real killer at 36 years old already sparked by Klitschko, A.J's leftovers.
            Like I said.. If Wilder fought Pulev, Pulev would be his best name on his resume after 40 fights.

            But for AJ going into his 20th fight a guy like Pulev is weak opposition.. But that's because we know AJ is way better than anyone else at heavyweight so we expect more from him. Pulev is still gona be AJ's second best name.

            AJ fought a top 10 opponent in front of 90k for his 19th fight and will fight another top 10 opponent in front of 75k for his 20th.. In comparison Wilder was still fighting 8 round contests for his 19th and 20th fights when he fought David Long and Daniel Cota in leasure centres in front of a couple hundred people.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TBear
              I just checked the WBA rankings for January 2014 and Ortiz was the top contender. He has been ever since.
              Over two years.

              These are the WBA rankings in 2016 while Fury held the title over a year ago;


              I personally don't think he can beat Joshua but he does have a solid argument about getting his mandatory title shot.
              AJ has only had the WBA 3 months. Pulev has been AJ's mandatory for over a year. But Ortiz defo deserves his shot at the title.. AJ said he'd fight him in February after beating Pulev but team Ortiz would rather get AJ stipped.

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #37
                Originally posted by cameltoe
                He can't fulfil both though, that's the problem. He already has the IBF mandatory against Pulev to defend which is.... do I need to go through the whole article again? Wouldn't it be easier just to read it?
                He doesn't have to go through ****. Everyone knows the deal. Why is he choosing mandatories over a unification fight if he is the A side against everyone? That's what everyone wants to know.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cameltoe
                  Joshua already is a huge star in boxing. He doesn't need the approval of you.

                  What an absolute mess of a post, absolute drivel. Most ridiculous load of sh** I've read on here for some time.

                  The Heavyweight scene hasn't been focused in America for years. Get over yourself. As if America is the be all and end all of, well anything, and Joshua HAS to go there. What a total load of ****e you're talking.

                  Klitschko's had a stunning career and didn't need that place. You've got one, unproven HW champion who's barely known over there.

                  Acting like Wilder is some US superstar pulling in big numbers. Did you not see Joshua vs Wlad, biggest heavyweight fight in years, at Wembley stadium in front of 90,000?

                  Meanwhile Wilder's fighting tomato cans in his backyard with about 500 people watching.

                  If anything Wilder should come to the UK. He's the B side and you know it. Suck it.
                  This clown is truly scared for Joshua, lmao. Joshua is unknown and he will continue to be unknown until he fights Wilder. And nobody wants to see him fight Pulev. You know your PED ***** is hiding behind Hearn. Just look at what you wrote, lmao. Nobody knows Joshua. And the HVW scene hasn't been respected in years. See if 90,000 fanas fill the arena for the Pulev fight. Oh that's right it might...it ain't **** to watch over there anyway. Enjoy your weak ass champions trinket time for when he fights Wilder it's a wrap for his stiff ass.

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                  • Randall Cunning
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TBear
                    I just checked the WBA rankings for January 2014 and Ortiz was the top contender. He has been ever since.
                    Over two years.

                    These are the WBA rankings in 2016 while Fury held the title over a year ago;


                    I personally don't think he can beat Joshua but he does have a solid argument about getting his mandatory title shot.
                    He failed that drug test inbetween 2014 and now, got dropped from the rankings. Also ditching Golden Boy when they probably had him 1 fight away from fighting for the WBA, thats the ironic thing, if he stuck with Golden Boy hed have been the WBA champion for a long time now. Think Fury got stripped the month after Ortiz pulled out of the Ustinov fight
                    Last edited by Randall Cunning; 09-02-2017, 11:17 AM.

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                    • cameltoe
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      This clown is truly scared for Joshua, lmao. Joshua is unknown and he will continue to be unknown until he fights Wilder. And nobody wants to see him fight Pulev. You know your PED ***** is hiding behind Hearn. Just look at what you wrote, lmao. Nobody knows Joshua. And the HVW scene hasn't been respected in years. See if 90,000 fanas fill the arena for the Pulev fight. Oh that's right it might...it ain't **** to watch over there anyway. Enjoy your weak ass champions trinket time for when he fights Wilder it's a wrap for his stiff ass.

                      Lol!!

                      Whatever dude.

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