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Willie was a champion for a while and had a very impressive style for that era, he was way ahead of his time and did stuff nobody before him ever did, when it comes to resumes though I can't recall any fighters who had great wins themselves that Pepp fought. Sandy Saddler maybe but other than that i'm not familiar with any other fighters on his resume.
Despite the lack of great fighters on his resume he was one of the most consistent fighters ever, he fought 1950 rounds and won like 95% of these rounds, 229-11-1, I think no other fighter in history had more wins than Pep. Plus he's the one that said: “All my wives were great housekeepers, after every divorce, they kept the house.”
Becoming and staying a champion at the time was a lot harder than now because there was only one champion per division and much less divisions, there aren't tgat many more boxers out there now compared to back then either so it was a lot harder back then.Comment
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Amazing how so many "fans" here can't research a record to see the highs & lows of a fighters career. Lots of lazy jackazzes here who degrade the quality talents in boxing history just to get some attention they crave.
Here you go junior everyone one these men are better than anyone on Wilders record.
Chalky Wright
Sammy Angott
Sal Bartolo
Sandy Sadler
Willie Joyce
Jackie Wilson
Manuel Ortiz
Eddie Compo
Roy Andrews
Jackie Blair
Allie Stolz
Back in Peps era you fought the top fifteen then the champ. If you faired well you did it again but in the time that it took to book the bigger shows you fought on. Thats why you see men with lesser established records. Back then you didn't go 25-0 then fight once a year for your career.
Without TV, closed circuit and ppv you needed to apply your craft to "earn money"!
Not understanding how the business worked in the different era's is no excuse to posting dumb topics.
Pep is a top ten feather all time and was an ATG boxer.
Every boxer who fights on the move is an under study of Willie. If you don't know that you don't know much.
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wtf?????????Comment
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WTF?
I think in your next thread, you should put together a video comparing the graceful technique of Wilder to Willie Pep's cement feet and sloppy defenseLast edited by BrometheusBob.; 12-21-2017, 05:41 PM.Comment
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There isn't a lot of footage from that era. I don't know jack about featherwegihts from the 40's, not sure many fans besides historian level fans do anyway. Doesn't mean there wasn't talent I/We don't know about. My overall knowledge of the 40's is a tick above casual level anyway.
Try this, go find footage for Eddie Compo (57-1-3). You can't because there is no footage at all. You don't get to 57-1 by being a shítty fighter. There are a lot of other names on his record that had pretty nice records for the times.
How about this, name 10 fighters that weren't HW's from the 1940's. Can you even do that? Maybe YDKSA 1940's featherweights.
Pep was pro for 25 years (40'-65'). In 1952 (career middle) Pep fought 12x. 13x for 1955 at 15 years in the pro game. Mayweather fought 1x in his 15th year (Mosley). These fighters were cut from a different cloth my friend.
What I do know is I have a very matured and well seasoned Boxing brain; when I see footage of Pep, I see a very rare talent. A nearly perfect diamond.
When I look at Wilder, I recognize his qualities which are reasonably small (tempo, power, fin), but I also see his flaws which are many. Basic punching is terrible and his resume speaks for itself. A common stone indeed.
Wilder has two maybe three recognizable names in an era where I know all the boxers floating around. We got internets, cable tv, the works. Information is commonplace. I know for a fact that 95% of his resume are no-name bums. Pep's, not so sure. Not my era of expertise.Last edited by McNulty; 12-21-2017, 07:13 PM.Comment
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You my friend have been successfully trolled....
You my friend just learned something about Willie Pep.
As far as I can tell there are two people on this site who ever knew Pep, John Scully and Me.
I know alot about Johnny & Eddie Compo because they were cousins of mine. Pep mentored me on laterial movement and putting punches together. The first show I worked at MSG Pep came to New York and worked my corner because he knew the state athletic commission was going to give me a hard time being a novice in their eyes. The week before I was at the Blue Horizon and three weeks before that in Milan Italy for the featherweight championship of the world.
Pep also survived a plane crash but broke his back and was told his career had ended. No it didn't end at all.
Trolls be trolls but their also just frustrated fans that need attention and negative responses work as well as positive ones for them. Poor bastards.
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Deontay.
Better resume, better skills, better BBC, better Instagram account.
The man has it all.Comment
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Wilder's resume is so thin than Willie Pep would actually be his best win despite the weight difference.Comment
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