Comments Thread For: Carson Jones: I Will Retire Antonio Margarito in His Own Country!

[Eff Pandas]

The Cotto win isn't the only thing he's accomplished.He was rated top 3 for many years, #1 for some too. He beat some good names, guys that even went on to go on the P4P list, a list he himself got on. When he lost to Mosley, Mosley got ranked all the way up to #3. Who gets ranked that high up for one win in the P4P rankings for one win? A win over an overrated boxer gets you there?

You don't need to look up for stats, the answer is pretty obvious and you know it.
I'm not calling him an ATG, but he put in work.

He may or may of not beaten Floyd. I personally don't think so but I'll tell you this, a prime Margarito or Paul Williams would of had Floyd running from one end of the ring to the other so fast, it would of been hilarious.

I got no idea what you are going on about at this point bro. I never said he ****** in the first place. I said he was overrated as f#ck. And I believe thats true cuz wayyyyyy too many mfers think boxing history looks different if Floyd & Margarito had fought meanwhile the only thing Margarito did on the world/mainstream stage is beat Cotto, who's another guy who's probably pretty f#cking overrated himself while still not being a guy who sucks with his accomplishments, & lose vs everyone else.

Overrated doesn't mean you suck. Its relative. Overrated means people have an inflated & undeserving high opinion of you like being top 3 for a decade like you tried to claim & saying he woulda beaten Floyd like so many still do today.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I got no idea what you are going on about at this point bro. I never said he ****** in the first place. I said he was overrated as f#ck. And I believe thats true cuz wayyyyyy too many mfers thing boxing history looks different if Floyd & Margarito had fought meanwhile the only thing Margarito did on the world stage is beat Cotto who's another guy who's probably pretty f#cking overrated himself while still not being a guy who sucks with his accomplishments.

Overrated doesn't mean you suck. Its relative. Overrated means people have an inflated & undeserving high opinion of you like being top 3 for a decade like you tried to claim & saying he woulda beaten Floyd like so many still do today.

I pointed out with those accomplishments, he can't be overrated as fuck. Now if he would've had only one good victory in all those years, then I'd agree but that didn't happen. He beat some legit opponents and fought hard with some of the losses he had like the Williams fight. World stage huh?!? Is that the ONLY criteria for a boxer and his wins now to you? I can find you lots of fights where a boxer beat another really good boxer that wasn't on the world stage. Did Jones vs Hopkins 1 happen on the world stage?

Tell me your top 5 all time favorite boxers and I bet you I can probably find some overrated as fuck things that they did in their careers.

[Eff Pandas]

I pointed out with those accomplishments, he can't be overrated as fuck.

Why can't he be overrated? Overrated is relative. ANYONE can be overrated in theory since its a relative thing. And I think since he gets talked about as a tip top guy by so many yet he's 1-3 in his big mainstream caliber fights & was completely outclassed in the 3 losses & neck to neck before the KO in the one he won yet gets talked about so highly is why he's overrated by a lot of fans in my estimation.

He beat some legit opponents and fought hard with some of the losses he had like the Williams fight. World stage huh?!?

Where am I saying he didn't beat a lot of legit opponents?!?!

Is that the ONLY criteria for a boxer and his wins now to you?

Idek wtf this means. I'm saying what Margarito did & how many fans view him from what he did makes him overrated. Thats it. Thats all I've said.

I can find you lots of fights where a boxer beat another really good boxer that wasn't on the world stage. Did Jones vs Hopkins 1 happen on the world stage?

Tell me your top 5 all time favorite boxers and I bet you I can probably find some overrated as fuck things that they did in their careers.

LOL come the f#ck on man do we gotta play this silly game over saying a guy is overrated who's only got 1 win at the mainstream level yet many boxing fans act like he woulda changed boxing history if he'd gotten the Floyd fight?

I'm not saying Margarito wasn't a good boxer. He clearly was. And I said he was probably a top ten caliber boxer for a decade. Thats mfing amazing!!!! How many guys are top ten for for 5 years? Probably less than 1% of boxers I'd bet. So it'd be even less than that for a decade. Thats amazing!!!! And yet people are so up Margarito's ass he's still overrated lol. Thats just how sh^t works brother, don't get weird with me over that.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Why can't he be overrated? Overrated is relative. ANYONE can be overrated in theory since its a relative thing. And I think since he gets talked about as a tip top guy by so many yet he's 1-3 in his big mainstream caliber fights & was completely outclassed in the 3 losses & neck to neck before the KO in the one he won yet gets talked about so highly is why he's overrated by a lot of fans in my estimation.



Where am I saying he didn't beat a lot of legit opponents?!?!



Idek wtf this means. I'm saying what Margarito did & how many fans view him from what he did makes him overrated. Thats it. Thats all I've said.



LOL come the f#ck on man do we gotta play this silly game over saying a guy is overrated who's only got 1 win at the mainstream level yet many boxing fans act like he woulda changed boxing history if he'd gotten the Floyd fight?

I'm not saying Margarito wasn't a good boxer. He clearly was. And I said he was probably a top ten caliber boxer for a decade. Thats mfing amazing!!!! How many guys are top ten for for 5 years? Probably less than 1% of boxers I'd bet. So it'd be even less than that for a decade. Thats amazing!!!! And yet people are so up Margarito's ass he's still overrated lol. Thats just how sh^t works brother, don't get weird with me over that.

No one is saying Margarito is an ATG. If they do, they're boxer fans, not the sport of boxing. I don't see many real boxing fans saying he's an ATG. That's when you could say he's overrated as fuck. Just cause some fan puts Margarito in the same level as a lot of ATGs doesn't mean the rest of his fans agree with him. Real boxing fans know what's up, even if I hate a boxer(Bernard) for example, I still give props where it's due.

[Eff Pandas]

No one is saying Margarito is an ATG. If they do, they're boxer fans, not the sport of boxing. I don't see many real boxing fans saying he's an ATG. That's when you could say he's overrated as fuck. Just cause some fan puts Margarito in the same level as a lot of ATGs doesn't mean the rest of his fans agree with him. Real boxing fans know what's up, even if I hate a boxer(Bernard) for example, I still give props where it's due.

Obviously I'm talking in generalizations. I don't overrate Margarito. I think a fair portion of fans don't either. But I think a lot of cats do think he's better than he was & overhype him by saying some of the things you initially said ("top 3 for a decade" lol & wayyyyyy too many mfers think he woulda destroyed Floyd which is comical to me).

You keep acting like I said something thats some incredible insult to the guy. If anything I'm insulting his fans who think the sun rises & sets up his ass. It doesn't & I won't be surprised if he loses to Carson Jones were my main points.

[FinitoxDinamita]

Huge fan of Margarito here. I hope he teaches Jones a lesson

[Raggamuffin]

Margarito is washed up.

[Raggamuffin]

The Cotto win isn't the only thing he's accomplished.He was rated top 3 for many years, #1 for some too. He beat some good names, guys that even went on to go on the P4P list, a list he himself got on. When he lost to Mosley, Mosley got ranked all the way up to #3. Who gets ranked that high up for one win in the P4P rankings for one win? A win over an overrated boxer gets you there?

You don't need to look up for stats, the answer is pretty obvious and you know it.
I'm not calling him an ATG, but he put in work.

He may or may of not beaten Floyd. I personally don't think so but I'll tell you this, a prime Margarito or Paul Williams would of had Floyd running from one end of the ring to the other so fast, it would of been hilarious.

Guys like Margarito and Williams don't beat guys like Floyd. And who has Margarito beaten outside of Cotto and 6 Heads!!!???

[Guest]

Guys like Margarito and Williams don't beat guys like Floyd. And who has Margarito beaten outside of Cotto and 6 Heads!!!???

It would have been nice to actually find that out.



I guess when you're getting that DLH Hatton money you don't care about the real threats who would make you a lot less.

[Raggamuffin]

It would have been nice to actually find that out.



I guess when you're getting that DLH Hatton money you don't care about the real threats who would make you a lot less.

The real threats were beaten by lesser men than Floyd. Foh