Can we stop comparing Andre Ward to Floyd Mayweather Jr please?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Mr Objecitivity
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jan 2016
    • 2503
    • 75
    • 22
    • 12,065

    #1

    Can we stop comparing Andre Ward to Floyd Mayweather Jr please?

    It's as if certain group of individuals want and expect every new black American 'slick' 'technical' boxer to be classified at the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr or a Roy Jones Jr. Not because of actual boxing skills, but because of other characteristics (I don't need to specify what they are).

    Let's not blindly (of actual boxing abilities) raise clowns and deliberate cheaters like Andre Ward and other boxers to Floyd Mayweather's level. Floyd Mayweather was a legitimate boxer who won majority of his bouts cleanly with clean boxing. He has legitimate boxing skills and has won most of his fights through ACTUAL boxing skills.

    On the other hand, Andre Ward is at best, slightly above average as a boxer and most of his game revolves around cheating, breaking the rules and deliberately hurting / damaging his opponents through those tactics.

    Let's also stop the assumption that just because one doesn't like Andre Ward or finds Andre Ward unappealing or criticizes Andre Ward, that they also won't like Floyd Mayweather Jr or would find him unappealing or would apply the same criticism to him. Some individuals have eyes (beyond just seeing superficial traits) and actually are able to see ACTUAL boxing abilities.
  • elfag
    Alpha fäggot
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Jan 2008
    • 15602
    • 3,485
    • 302
    • 65,929

    #2
    both of those guys are black, what do you mean theyre not the same?

    Comment

    • Jsmooth9876
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Jan 2014
      • 12209
      • 2,297
      • 365
      • 72,745

      #3
      Originally posted by el***
      both of those guys are black, what do you mean theyre not the same?
      Can't tell em apart honestly























      Comment

      • -PBP-
        32 Time World Champion
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Jan 2012
        • 24107
        • 836
        • 635
        • 34,297

        #4
        Ward has been the top p4p fighter for a while now. Idiots just do everything they can to discredit him.

        Since their favorite fighters can't beat Ward they have to find other ways to drag him down.

        Comment

        • Pigeons
          Banned
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Jun 2013
          • 14750
          • 1,211
          • 714
          • 37,430

          #5
          OP called the P4P #1 at best a slightly above average boxer.

          Comment

          • A.K
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • May 2014
            • 11052
            • 280
            • 79
            • 71,066

            #6
            Andre gets hit way too much and got dropped silly he is however the best mma boxer to date.

            Comment

            • Jsmooth9876
              Undisputed Champion
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Jan 2014
              • 12209
              • 2,297
              • 365
              • 72,745

              #7
              Ward finds a way to win every fight, the same as Floyd. That's what the best fighters do. I don't think Ward will retire undefeated though, I thought he lost the first Kovalev fight and he's slowing down quite a bit. If he hangs around even a little too long he may get beat.

              Comment

              • Mr Objecitivity
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jan 2016
                • 2503
                • 75
                • 22
                • 12,065

                #8
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                OP called the P4P #1 at best a slightly above average boxer.
                P4P 1 according to whom? Americans? So why should that prove anything?

                Comment

                • Mr Objecitivity
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 2503
                  • 75
                  • 22
                  • 12,065

                  #9
                  Originally posted by -PBP-
                  Ward has been the top p4p fighter for a while now. Idiots just do everything they can to discredit him.

                  Since their favorite fighters can't beat Ward they have to find other ways to drag him down.
                  For me, it has nothing to do with any of the things you've mentioned but to do with Andre Ward performing illegal moves to win his bouts against every top level opponent.

                  The same can't be said of Mayweather (who has actually beat many top caliber opponents without needing illegal headbutts and low blows).

                  Comment

                  • Mr Objecitivity
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Jan 2016
                    • 2503
                    • 75
                    • 22
                    • 12,065

                    #10
                    Originally posted by el***
                    both of those guys are black, what do you mean theyre not the same?
                    The difference is, one guy (Floyd Mayweather) can actually box and win his bouts using legit boxing skills. The other guy (Andre Ward) can't and has to rely on illegal moves / cheating to win every one of his fights against a top level opponent.

                    If all you can see is skin color, then I feel sorry for you.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP