Respect to McGregor. 1st time in the ring and he did that!

[Spoon23]

Boxing lost.
Floyd is supposed to be boxing's finest. Connor was equal to floyd until his stamina went out.
Boxing is supposed to be holy grail?
What we learnt is condifioning is what's great about boxers. Not skill.
Floyd's skill didn't impress Connor. Floyd's been there, done that, bought t sshirt but didn't look like 20 years experience between them

Conor was in the fight and cruising actually, but when I see his mouth open in the 6th after all the shots he landed. He punched himself out. Conditioning won the fight for Floyd, not skill, He had to only wait for Conor to gas out and wait for the kill. Like a lion who saw a vulnerable gazelle. BUt that said if both had equal stamina. Conor could have won it.

Conor was connecting good throughout the fight until he gassed out. On the 6th his jaw was hanging, not from Floyd hitting him, coz there few and weak, more from fatigue and exhaustion from all the punches he threw that landed on Floyd's head and body.

A novice mistake by a novice boxer. Still he can stand tall. Conor held his own and gave Floyd all he can handle. That speaks volumes for someone who was just debuting as a boxer competing at the highest level of boxing and he did that to Floyd. That was embarrassing to see Floyd getting turned into a target practice in the early rounds as his head snapped back like a pinata over and over from Conor's stiff jabs.

[Spoon23]

it's hard to understand what you say because you're a completely salty, biased, uneducated source of information...




In reality, it was a cake walk...Floyd was realistically winning the fight 6-3 at the time it was stopped...5-4 if you're feeling sorry for Conor...he wasn't hurt or wobbled by any of those early shots...

Floyd is a notoriously slow starter...he takes his time to feel out his opponent, and make adjustments...he very often gives away early rounds...you should know this...

You seem stuck on the idea of Conor connecting more than Floyd in the first 4 rounds...and that automatically means he won the rounds...thats an incorrect and obnoxiously flawed argument...but I'll play your game...

According to compubox, the punches landed through 4 were (May/Mac)

2/9...5/8...5/9...16/16...

So that puts, like I've said a 3-0 lead for McGregor because neither fighter was doing jack **** in terms of really landing, but McGregor was much busier...

Round 4 is even in total...but Mayweather was not only twice as accurate with his punches(52% vs 25%) but also landed 5 more power punches in round 4...using your own logic...I score that for Mayweather...

The rest of the fight? Let's have a look...but it's not pretty for your argument...

5. 12/9
6. 27/19
7. 21/12
8. 20/15
9. 42/10 (!!) This could be a 2pt round based on your logic
10. 20/4



Yes, Conor fought VERY well for someone making their debut in boxing, but it's not like he's never been in a fight before, and he prides himself on his striking skills in the octagon...

As for how he gassed out, of course as you say, if you know boxing, you know throwing punches drains energy...however, if you actually knew boxing, you would never disregard the effect that being walked down, and constantly pressured has on a fighter...or the amount of energy he expended basically running away from Floyd in the second half of the fight...



See above...you don't know what you're talking about...




I've been giving props to McGregor through this whole discussion...yes Floyd is an old man, yes he has slowed down, yes he took punches...but he also fought a completely different style of fight than we've seen him fight in a really, really long time...it's a simple fact that if you're going to continually walk forward towards someone you are going to be hit with more shots, it's unavoidable..

It's not really a knock on Floyd, it's a simple matter of biology...he's older, and hasn't fought in 2+ years



Yes, he did...and I've never said he didnt



Don't waste your time with the videos...they won't prove anything, we all saw the fight lol

To answer your points:

1. If you've been reading what I've been saying. Conor wasn't ready for a 12 rounder.

Thus, he lost. A novice has no business in a 12 round fight, more so, with an elite fighter like Floyd.

That said, if it was an 8 rounder. Then we had a close fight. That Conor could have won. Knowing Conor gassed out due to his own fatigue, not Floyd's doing. He just ran out of gas, and punched himself out.

Round 1 10-9 McG
Round 2 10-9 McG
Round 3 10-9 McG
Round 4 10-9 McG
Round 5 10-9 May
Round 6 10-10 draw
Round 7 10-9 May
Round 8 10-9 McG

That's a clear 5 rounds to 3 for Conor.

That said, all I'm saying in this thread. Is give props to where credit is due. A novice fighter who debuted in a boxing ring did all that. No one expected Conor to do all that. Max even said he can't touch Floyd. But Conor did and then some. Got to give him respect for hanging in there, and not just hanging in there, He gave Floyd a hard time. That's as raw a talent as it gets.

2. Floyd pressured Connor in the later rounds?

Yeah sure he did, but that's what boxing is all about trading punches. and pressuring oyur opponent.That was expected of Floyd, but what you don't get is Conor just ran out of gas. His gas just went empty. His mouth was open in the 6th round. And Conor was winning at that point. It has nothing to do with Floyd pressuring him. He was winning going into 6. He just ran out of gas. And that's when Floyd knew he only had to turn it on. Conor was a parked car with no fuel left. Easy pickin'

3. I don't know what I'm talking about? It takes years and years to master a sport. Conor only had a few months to learn a different sport. Respect all disciplines. Conor had a few time to learn. That in itself to accomplish all that for a short span of time is amazing in itself.

What Conor was lacking was stamina to compete in a 12 rounder. What is finally proved is the technique and conditioning levels you get to when learning to box for 14 - 15 years before turning pro. We don't need to compare MMA to boxing (as it is different, tough and rougher in its own way) but what we saw is the evolution of boxing punching /conditioning is levels above the necessarily compromised artform called MMA.


Like I said my thread has brought out that Conor wasn't ready for a 12 rounder. he just ran out of gas. All Floyd had to do is pick him appart as Conor was running on fumes.

Did Floyd do that to Conor? NO, COnor did that to himself. Conor was landing more shots than Floyd going into the mid rounds. Floyd only lstarted landing significant punches although few, in the mid rounds, not enough to hurt Conor. What hurt Conor was his own fatigue, he couldn't go on, lack of conditioning. Floyd smelled blood, and that was the end.

Conor's own thoughts of what happened.

Starts @ 1:00 Conor: 'It was just fatigue'


@ 2:48 Conor: 'It's an adjustment to go 12 rounds. You know what I mean from changing from 5 to 12 rounders. 5 rounds to 12 is a lot so whatever'



4. Good to know you kind a acknowledged what Conor has done. He did more than expected of him in the boxing community.

As I quote you:

I've been giving props to McGregor through this whole discussion...yes Floyd is an old man, yes he has slowed down, yes he took punches...but he also fought a completely different style of fight than we've seen him fight in a really, really long time...it's a simple fact that if you're going to continually walk forward towards someone you are going to be hit with more shots, it's unavoidable..

It's not really a knock on Floyd, it's a simple matter of biology...he's older, and hasn't fought in 2+ years

Yes, he did...and I've never said he didnt


Cheers!

[Spoon23]

They are crooks and always have been, that Is something that will never change. Mcgregor certainly deserves respect and did much better than anyone was giving him credit for. At 29 years old, It Is to late for Mcgregor to make the transition Into boxing permanently, IMO and I am not sure he would want to. If he would have had a few years under his belt he would have had a legitimate chance with this version of Floyd. I just don't see him being able to compete at 154 with anyone really. As you mentioned above, he needs serious help with his stamina and punching technique. He has a decent jab, but has no Idea how to leverage his punches so that they have any kind of Impact.

Yes Vegas is full of rotten score cards.

That said, respect is given to those deserve it. We certainly didn't expect that from Conor, and he did more than expected of him.

Andre ward says it best.

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-expected-more-from-mayweather-showed-his-age--119931

“I expected a lot less from McGregor and I expected a little bit more from Floyd Mayweather. I think Floyd showed his age a little bit. He’s still got a lot left in the tank, but when you start seeing yourself getting hit with punches you typically won’t get hit with, especially against a guy with no experience, and you’re not offensively getting off and throwing like you should be - it’s time to hang it up. It’s not that you don’t have it, but you want to leave before you don’t have it anymore," Ward said.


ANDRE WARD TO FLOYD: IT'S TIME TO HANG UP

Here is another one.

I normally don't agree with Amir Khan, but he also says. Conor lost coz of fatigue.

# Not a good look for Floyd

[ironmt]

Yes Vegas is full of rotten score cards.

That said, respect is given to those deserve it. We certainly didn't expect that from Conor, and he did more than expected of him.

Andre ward says it best.

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-expected-more-from-mayweather-showed-his-age--119931

“I expected a lot less from McGregor and I expected a little bit more from Floyd Mayweather. I think Floyd showed his age a little bit. He’s still got a lot left in the tank, but when you start seeing yourself getting hit with punches you typically won’t get hit with, especially against a guy with no experience, and you’re not offensively getting off and throwing like you should be - it’s time to hang it up. It’s not that you don’t have it, but you want to leave before you don’t have it anymore," Ward said.


ANDRE WARD TO FLOYD: IT'S TIME TO HANG UP

Here is another one.

I normally don't agree with Amir Khan, but he also says. Conor lost coz of fatigue.

# Not a good look for Floyd

Floyd certainly needs to retire. He Isn't half of what he once was and he knows It. If that would have been Crawford or Spence across from him last Saturday night, Floyd would be 49-1 right now.

[Spoon23]

Floyd certainly needs to retire. He Isn't half of what he once was and he knows It. If that would have been Crawford or Spence across from him last Saturday night, Floyd would be 49-1 right now.

Yeah, I don't see Floyd surviving against Crawford and Spence. He definitely needs to retire.

That was a sloppy joe performance showing his decline. Letting a novice do that to him is cringe worthy.

It's really time to hang it up.

[niceyboo3]

Yeah, Conor can be robbed in a 12 round bout, but what they can't fool is those punches that has been landing all night for Conor. Those wore money shots. If Conor was robbed. What will last is the impression that he broke through Floyd's guard over and over again. Amazing athlete.

He just keeps on impressing. I say he still can raise his chin up with that performance. He did a lot for a 0-0 fighter.

# respect

No he boxes horribly but it was a circus show to me. You cant fix that at his age. He looked as goofy or clumsy as Tyson Fury (he was a unified champion). *** this, i think I'll take a break.

[Raggamuffin]

If this was a 8 round contest.

And Conor's stamina was used to boxing rounds. This would have been a UD for Conor.

A novice boxer with 0-0 record, did that to Floyd. Wow! A guy who never fought in a professional bout all his life against the best defensive fighter. All those body shots and those head shots from his nice jab are a thing of beauty. Rounds were piling up for Conor, he just gassed out.

We all expected he won't last, but we never thought he can break through Floyd's defense and make a fool out of Floyd.


# Props to Conor

# mad skills

# a rough diamond not even polished yet

Amazing circus show! One for the books!


An 0-0 fighter did this to floyd.

god damn!

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From Conor's own mouth.

Yes, Conor it was fatigue.

You weren't ready for a 12 rounder.

Start @ 1:00 Conor: 'It was just fatigue'

@ 2:30 Conor: 'I don't think it was skill there. In another time I'll beat him.'

@ 2:48 Conor: 'It's an adjustment to go 12 rounds. You know what I mean from changing from 5 to 12. 5 rounds to 12 is a lot so whatever'

If this was an 8 round fight? Lol

[Dosumpthin]

If this was a 8 round contest.

And Conor's stamina was used to boxing rounds. This would have been a UD for Conor.

A novice boxer with 0-0 record, did that to Floyd. Wow! A guy who never fought in a professional bout all his life against the best defensive fighter. All those body shots and those head shots from his nice jab are a thing of beauty. Rounds were piling up for Conor, he just gassed out.

We all expected he won't last, but we never thought he can break through Floyd's defense and make a fool out of Floyd.


# Props to Conor

# mad skills

# a rough diamond not even polished yet

Amazing circus show! One for the books!


An 0-0 fighter did this to floyd.

god damn!

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From Conor's own mouth.

Yes, Conor it was fatigue.

You weren't ready for a 12 rounder.

Start @ 1:00 Conor: 'It was just fatigue'

@ 2:30 Conor: 'I don't think it was skill there. In another time I'll beat him.'

@ 2:48 Conor: 'It's an adjustment to go 12 rounds. You know what I mean from changing from 5 to 12. 5 rounds to 12 is a lot so whatever'

SPOON23 STATS

200 MOST RECENT POST:

About Mayweather/Conor. = 200
About GGG/Canelo. = 0

[Madison Boxing]

if it was a 1 round fight mcgregor would have won!!!

[VERSION1 (V1)]

Yeah, Conor can be robbed in a 12 round bout, but what they can't fool is those punches that has been landing all night for Conor. Those wore money shots. If Conor was robbed. What will last is the impression that he broke through Floyd's guard over and over again. Amazing athlete.

He just keeps on impressing. I say he still can raise his chin up with that performance. He did a lot for a 0-0 fighter.

# respect

why do you keep putting a space after the #