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  • TonyGe
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    #21
    Originally posted by harwri008
    I could name a bunch of people that thought Mayweather but I realize that's irrelevant as long as 3 judges agree with me and not you. How about this, I agree with everything you said (about the way the fight went) and still think Mayweather won. Mayweather didn't engage in exchanges with him because he knows Pacquiao need a stationary target. Mayweather missed more than usual but Manny missed more. The difference is when Pacquiao missed it was by a mile. Mayweather was connecting with some part of his body... It might not have been always flush but he connected. Mayweather was forced to move against Maidana and quite a few other opponents but guess what, he still won because while he was moving he was connecting while the other guy was missing. I respect the fact that you were watching boxing for 40 years but I've been going to the hospital my entire life but it doesn't make me a medical expert.
    Take Canelo vs Lara. I thought Lara lost because of the very same reasons. Lara was moving in the last half of the fight because he didn't want to exchange. If you are retreating to me your giving up the center of the ring and conceefing dominance to your opponent. If you do that you have to make up for it with landed hard punches. Lara didn't do it enough and the judges got it right. In this case they didn't. Whether you miss by a mile or by inches makes no difference in scoring according to the rules governing boxing. I also thought that Hagler beat Leonard or should have had a draw for similar reasons. In that fight Leonard was more aggressive than Mayweather.

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    • boliodogs
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pretty Boy32
      If you think Manny won that fight then you have a worse boxing IQ then larryxxx.! Keep in mind he is a crackhead
      larryxxx has a high boxing IG on both current boxing and past boxing. The boxing idiot is you.

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      • Metho_4u
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        #23
        Originally posted by TonyGe
        I think Manny beat Mayweather in their fight. So Connor would be completely over matched. The only thing Connor has in his favor is size.
        PAC is a smaller man than Mayweather..
        Lmao, you're an idiot...based on what did he beat him? Oh...the slow mo doe

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          #24
          Sorry, I fuced that last post up. What I meant to say is larryxxx has a high boxing IQ and Prettyboy 32 is a boxing idiot.

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          • TonyGe
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            #25
            Originally posted by Metho_4u
            Lmao, you're an idiot...based on what did he beat him? Oh...the slow mo doe
            No not the slow mo. I actually watched the fight with a critical eye. So are Loma, Holyfield, Mosely and the Spanish broadcasting team idiots also? Those guys all gave their reasons in support of their view. Since you can't come up with a reasonable rebuttal I'm saying your really the idiot.
            Last edited by TonyGe; 08-23-2017, 04:40 PM.

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              #26
              Manny would beat the sht out of Con as would any other elite boxer at the weight.

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              • HarvardBlue
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                #27
                Originally posted by TonyGe
                Take Canelo vs Lara. I thought Lara lost because of the very same reasons. Lara was moving in the last half of the fight because he didn't want to exchange. If you are retreating to me your giving up the center of the ring and conceefing dominance to your opponent. If you do that you have to make up for it with landed hard punches. Lara didn't do it enough and the judges got it right. In this case they didn't. Whether you miss by a mile or by inches makes no difference in scoring according to the rules governing boxing. I also thought that Hagler beat Leonard or should have had a draw for similar reasons. In that fight Leonard was more aggressive than Mayweather.
                I guess I see where you going but I disagree. Lara ran from Canelo the last few rounds because Canelo was hurting him to the body. He was less effective at hurting Canelo than the other way around so he retreated. He did land some punches backing up and Canelo could not cut the ring off. Mayweather moved against Pacquiao but other one or two instances when Pacquiao connected he was never hurt or in trouble. Mayweather was more effective landing his punches than Pacquiao. All Pacquiao did was follow Mayweather around landing here and there while Mayweather landed more clean, more effective punches.
                Btw, I thought Lara beat Canelo but Leonard and Hagler looked more like a draw.

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                • Metho_4u
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TonyGe
                  No not the slow mo. I actually watched the fight with a critical eye. So are Loma, Holyfield, Mosely and the Spanish broadcasting team idiots also? Those guys all gave their reasons in support of their view. Since you can't come up with a reasonable rebuttal I'm saying your really the idiot.
                  Lol, I know Manny lost...all I need to know...records show it, the majority of press and fighters think he lost too.

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Metho_4u
                    Lol, I know Manny lost...all I need to know...records show it, the majority of press and fighters think he lost too.
                    doesnt mean the majority is right. if you watch the fight closely it was pac landing the cleaner flusher punches. isnt that the point of boxing??? bad decision and one that was based on high expectations for pac(throw a millino punches and be super active) and low expectations for floyd(be boring and rarely engage) when floyd met his expectations and pac didnt well i guess he won cept if you were judging the fight without reputation and it was fighter a vs fighter b and fighter a landed almost all the clean punches wouldnt he deserve to win?

                    so we know pac landed the much cleaner flusher punches why did floyd deserve to win? because he made pac miss? uhh he landed teh much cleaner punches so how do you give floyd credit for defense on that one? yeah he missed but he also landed the much better punces so clean punches by a mile to pac. pac should be given credit for his defense since floyd rarely hit him flush. yeah floyd grazed him a decent amount and stuck his arm out to touch pac a lot but it says clean punches and grazing punches or lil touches arent really clean punches now are they? so how did floyd really win the fight? compubox numbers were a joke. pac landed a lot more clean punches than floyd, if you count the taps and touches then yes it was close in lands. pac had better defense as he rarely got hit with the flush shots, and made flyod hold and bend over constantly(illegal things) just to keep up so he was the ring general. its a shame boxing fans cant see this and get tunnel vision.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by harwri008
                      I guess I see where you going but I disagree. Lara ran from Canelo the last few rounds because Canelo was hurting him to the body. He was less effective at hurting Canelo than the other way around so he retreated. He did land some punches backing up and Canelo could not cut the ring off. Mayweather moved against Pacquiao but other one or two instances when Pacquiao connected he was never hurt or in trouble. Mayweather was more effective landing his punches than Pacquiao. All Pacquiao did was follow Mayweather around landing here and there while Mayweather landed more clean, more effective punches.
                      Btw, I thought Lara beat Canelo but Leonard and Hagler looked more like a draw.
                      is this a joke or what? pac was landing clean flush shots that snapped floyds head back(not to mention body punches where are the andre ward body work peeps...) pac was putting his full body weight and committing to his punches while floyd was pulling his punches and not committing because of the fear of the counter. floyd was rarely hitting pac flush and was just grazing or reaching out and touching him. is touching someone punching them now? we have the video evidence of this so i dont understand how you can stay flyods punches were cleaner and more effective as that was obv not the case. usually the argument is floyd ladned more but that one has been debunked upon review. the other argument is he outboxed hijm which obv is a vague argument that makes no sense since pac was landing the much cleaner flusher shots so hwo can you outbox someone that is landing the better punches? only in a floyd fans world i guess

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