Jeff Mayweather "I put Spence over Lomachenko. Loma hasn't done much."

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  • John Locke
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    #121
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    His reflexes looked shot to me. His age had nothing to do with it. I didn't say he wasn't in his prime age-wise.

    And I thought the fight was a toss up but leaned towards Brook. That said, nobody knew what the GGG fight would take out of him. It took his best and left him a shell. You'll see in his next fight that he takes on a live opponent.
    Brook doesn't overly rely on reflexes for defence, his reflexes were the same as usual.

    I don't get it, so you picked Brook to win, but you're not giving Spence his props for getting the job done? So it's a lose-lose situation for Spence, if he wins - Brook was shot, if he losses - he was never that good anyway? Maybe Spence is just better than you give him credit for?

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    • Real King Kong
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      #122
      Originally posted by Beercules
      Jeffs blackness
      his face is clearly more biased than the rest of his body.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #123
        Originally posted by John Locke
        Brook doesn't overly rely on reflexes for defence, his reflexes were the same as usual.

        I don't get it, so you picked Brook to win, but you're not giving Spence his props for getting the job done? So it's a lose-lose situation for Spence, if he wins - Brook was shot, if he losses - he was never that good anyway? Maybe Spence is just better than you give him credit for?
        First off, Brooks hand speed is a huge part of the way he fights. Hand speed/reflexes are a very big deal with fighters like him who do not fight traditionally. I have no idea what you were talking about there. His reflexes were nowhere on the level they were in the GGG fight and prior. I noticed it right away.

        Next, I do give credit for the win and don't say I'm a hater, I grew up less than 5 miles from Spence. (Desoto, Tx)

        Lastly, I picked Brook to win but by no means wrote off Spence. That said, I knew how the fight would end right away. Brook looked like he couldn't fight anymore and it wasn't just what Spence was doing.

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        • John Locke
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          #124
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat
          First off, Brooks hand speed is a huge part of the way he fights. Hand speed/reflexes are a very big deal with fighters like him who do not fight traditionally. I have no idea what you were talking about there. His reflexes were nowhere on the level they were in the GGG fight and prior. I noticed it right away.

          Next, I do give credit for the win and don't say I'm a hater, I grew up less than 5 miles from Spence. (Desoto, Tx)

          Lastly, I picked Brook to win but by no means wrote off Spence. That said, I knew how the fight would end right away. Brook looked like he couldn't fight anymore and it wasn't just what Spence was doing.
          Spence is obviously faster than Golovkin, being the much smaller guy, so of course Brook is going to look slower against Spence bruh...

          Brook was even in the fight going into the 7th, he fought well and was simply overwhelmed by Spence's body punches and intensity. It's that simple, he didn't show any signs of being shot.

          Brook looked better against Spence than he did against Golovkin, he was at a more natural weight and was competitive for most of the fight. I been watching Kell for years and seen most of his fights, he didn't look any different, he was just fighting an elite fighter so he didn't look as good. It's very basic stuff.

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          • Boxing Goat
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            #125
            Originally posted by John Locke
            Spence is obviously faster than Golovkin, being the much smaller guy, so of course Brook is going to look slower against Spence bruh...

            Brook was even in the fight going into the 7th, he fought well and was simply overwhelmed by Spence's body punches and intensity. It's that simple, he didn't show any signs of being shot.

            Brook looked better against Spence than he did against Golovkin, he was at a more natural weight and was competitive for most of the fight. I been watching Kell for years and seen most of his fights, he didn't look any different, he was just fighting an elite fighter so he didn't look as good. It's very basic stuff.
            I totally disagree. Like I said, you'll see in the next fight. He had a hard time pulling the trigger way before he showed any signs of getting tired/hurt. If you go and watch the Porter and Spence fights back to back, you'll see a difference in reflexes big time.

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            • oscar9992
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              #126
              In 9 fights he definitely done that much...

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                #127
                Originally posted by John Locke
                Spence is obviously faster than Golovkin, being the much smaller guy, so of course Brook is going to look slower against Spence bruh...

                Brook was even in the fight going into the 7th, he fought well and was simply overwhelmed by Spence's body punches and intensity. It's that simple, he didn't show any signs of being shot.

                Brook looked better against Spence than he did against Golovkin, he was at a more natural weight and was competitive for most of the fight. I been watching Kell for years and seen most of his fights, he didn't look any different, he was just fighting an elite fighter so he didn't look as good. It's very basic stuff.
                I agree with almost everything but I disagree that sucking yourself Down to make a weight is not more natural than fighting at a healthy weight. He belongs at 154 and should have went there after the GGG fight but props to him for defending his title like a man

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
                  How bout in the pros???...
                  9-1 with 7 ko’s (salido should of been docked MULTIPLE points for the HUNDRED low blows he hit Loma with, if you disagree your ****** and dksab) He also is the current wbo champion, won it only after 3 pro fights. Has successfully defended it 7 times already. Oh and he’s only been a pro since October 2013, less than 4 years.

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                  • REMOVE SHARK 55
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Kigali
                    What has loma unified??????????
                    Two weight World champion.

                    Originally posted by thabanga510
                    I see no problem with Spence being above Lomachenko. The dude has 10 fights and 1 loss. Spence just beat Kell Brook who was better than anyone Lomachenko has fought.
                    Tell me you're trolling. Fighting Gary Russell Jr, Walters, Salido & Jason Sosa trumps beating Brook & Chris Algeri.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
                      Two weight World champion.



                      Tell me you're trolling. Fighting Gary Russell Jr, Walters, Salido & Jason Sosa trumps beating Brook & Chris Algeri.
                      Never unified any division.

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