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Remember when Jay Z's Roc Nation offered Adrien Broner $40 mil for a 4 year deal

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
    4 years for $40m, would've looked been spread over 12-15 fights, with Broner likely needing to perform well to keep the deal going.

    Hindsight is what it is, but with the way he's fought since the offer was made, I doubt he would've hardly ever actually ended up seeing much of that money get to him.
    How do you know? What if it was 8 fights for $5 mil a fight? And even if it was 12-15, still decent money and if he thinks he was so good, he wouldve did it

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    • #22
      even if broner had sign with roc nation, would he be making what he's promised, $40 mil in 4 years? Didnt cotto signed with roc nation for $50 something mil? how did that work out?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Thraxox View Post
        That and then turning down 4 million+ pvp Pacquiao fight. I wonder what kind of ****** Broner is.
        Top Rank didn't come to Broner's number, had to stake their full event on fighting an Australian in Australia, and watched Pacquiao not only look old as **** against an unknown fighter, but also get beat.

        Foresight would've been great to have, but with the performance that a motivated Adrien Broner put up against Mikey Garcia, who's the ****** really?

        Pacquiao-Broner would've been a fight with two name fighters on PPV (700k homes wouldn't have been that extreme), that would've actually been an attraction in Las Vegas ($15m for the site fee wouldn't have been unheard of either).

        Broner would've never gotten the same as Pacquiao, but he would've been compelled to take $6m, Pacquiao would still get his $20m guarantee, there likely would've been more than enough money made for Top Rank to get their share, and Pacquiao could've looked electric against a stationary guy who only fires when you're in front of him (building the interest in fans wanting to see Pacquiao on PPV again after the fight).

        Instead, Pacquiao is again fighting in Australia, likely for the same money on ESPN, against a rugged young bull (who folks still doubt the skills of) after already looking like a spent fighter.

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        • #24
          Well at the time it wasn't a bad deal considering he was undefeated and the top guy in the sport. Add with his self belief he wouldn't ever lose and I see his thinking. Hindsight as they say..

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          • #25
            He betted on himself and lost. Shit happens.

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            • #26
              The offer was slow, especially when considering what Broner brought to the event

              Originally posted by SniXSniPe View Post
              This dumbazz turned down a money fight vs. Pacquiao also. At this point, I don't feel sorry for him.

              He has zero business sense and dloverestimates his own talent, hence his shopping against Mikey.
              Top Rank went from possibly having an event that they could take to HBO for PPV and MGM Resorts and make a killing on, to fighting a no-name fighter in his home country because that was the only place willing to pay enough to bring Pacquiao over.

              And then Pacquiao went ahead and got beat.

              Broner didn't match the money, but he got fair value for the Garcia fight, and it was basically in the "good little man vs good bigger man" frame where he was live to win.

              Beat Mikey impressively and he'd be back in position for those big money matchups.

              He ends up not closing the deal, but don't act as if he took a bad deal, or passed on a good deal for that matter

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              • #27
                Originally posted by NYG View Post
                How do you know? What if it was 8 fights for $5 mil a fight? And even if it was 12-15, still decent money and if he thinks he was so good, he wouldve did it
                Even if the offer was for a ridiculous $5m a fight (Broner hadn't even been able to get $2m for a fight before that), he still got beat, clearly, by Shawn Porter in his second fight after publicly passing on the deal.

                He's had 6 fights since the offer, lost two of them, and arguably lost a third fight in that run too. There's no way that out clauses wouldn't have existed.

                Broner bet on himself and lost; we'd need the actual offer to know if it was a good or bad bet.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Top Rank went from possibly having an event that they could take to HBO for PPV and MGM Resorts and make a killing on, to fighting a no-name fighter in his home country because that was the only place willing to pay enough to bring Pacquiao over.

                  And then Pacquiao went ahead and got beat.

                  Broner didn't match the money, but he got fair value for the Garcia fight, and it was basically in the "good little man vs good bigger man" frame where he was live to win.

                  Beat Mikey impressively and he'd be back in position for those big money matchups.

                  He ends up not closing the deal, but don't act as if he took a bad deal, or passed on a good deal for that matter
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                  Took a beating from Pacquiao in a PPV event for 6 million dollars or took a beating from Mikey Garcia in a non PPV event for 1.5+ million dollars?

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                  • #29
                    Cotto's package deal was supposed to be worth $50m

                    Originally posted by WesternChamp View Post
                    even if broner had sign with roc nation, would he be making what he's promised, $40 mil in 4 years? Didnt cotto signed with roc nation for $50 something mil? how did that work out?
                    To help Cotto's concert business in Puerto Rico, and for three fights with the actual boxer, Miguel Cotto.

                    No details have come out on what the concert business part of the deal looked like, but Cotto's side easily made $20m+ off of the Alvarez fight (how that was split between RocNation and MC Promotions is between them), and both parties were able to come to a number to settle the last fight of the deal.

                    You add that the Geale fight brought in a really good amount of money, and I doubt that Cotto missed out on all that much.

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                    • #30
                      So $40 mil for four years regardless of who he fights.

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