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  • BigZ44
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    #31
    Originally posted by Kigali
    Who are his camp saying this to??

    I ain't seen ****.

    Post a link from this obscure source.



    Who the **** has TWO Mandatory's..
    Um, guys that have 2 belts. I'm at work right now, so don't have time to find the articles, but they've all been on this site talking about the IBF and WBA trying to work out a solution because they have both ordered Joshua to make a mandatory defense for each one of their belts. Pulev is the IBF mando and Ortiz is the WBA mando. Both Wilder and Joshua just need to deal with their mandatory fights so there are no more obstacles between them.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Kigali
      He's already done that stumpy.

      AJ has TWO Wilder leftovers on his resume...he must be a cherrypicker too.
      Molina yeah. Who is this other leftover you speak of?

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        #33
        Originally posted by BigZ44
        Um, guys that have 2 belts. I'm at work right now, so don't have time to find the articles, but they've all been on this site talking about the IBF and WBA trying to work out a solution because they have both ordered Joshua to make a mandatory defense for each one of their belts. Pulev is the IBF mando and Ortiz is the WBA mando. Both Wilder and Joshua just need to deal with their mandatory fights so there are no more obstacles between them.
        This is a BS excuse considering how you all disregard that team Joshua was threatening to drop the IBF a few months ago if the IBF did not concede in permitting the Klitschko rematch, and how Tyson Fury had no reservations doing just exactly that

        ; Tyson was in a similar position, defend against your mandatory Charles Martin OR drop the IBF to make the fight that should take priority with Wladimir...but its funny when it comes to fighting for the LINEAL HW CROWN with Deontay Wilder to solidify a new lineage and once and for all become undisputed NAH....THAT CAN WAIT...But we would do it for a semi-retired Klitshcko tho.

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          #34
          Originally posted by 1hourRun
          This is a BS excuse considering how you all disregard that team Joshua was threatening to drop the IBF a few months ago if the IBF did not concede in permitting the Klitschko rematch, and how Tyson Fury had no reservations doing just exactly that

          ; Tyson was in a similar position, defend against your mandatory Charles Martin OR drop the IBF to make the fight that should take priority with Wladimir...but its funny when it comes to fighting for the LINEAL HW CROWN with Deontay Wilder to solidify a new lineage and once and for all become undisputed NAH....THAT CAN WAIT...But we would do it for a semi-retired Klitshcko tho.
          TBRB have Ortiz no2 mate. Wilder gunna have to wait his turn to get a crack at the lineal title

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            #35
            Originally posted by Randall Cunning
            TBRB have Ortiz no2 mate. Wilder gunna have to wait his turn to get a crack at the lineal title
            I think I made a sound argument in my last post and exposed the hypocrisy of Anthony Joshua's fans : so you are left to resort in a weak argument regarding Deontay Wilder's ranking to undermine the fact that Wilder vs. Joshua is the fight that should take priority over mandatories....well to you sir and all the other clowns on the A.J bandwagon you yourselves do not believe that a failed PED cheat Ortiz has a better resume but here if you reference TBRB lets be fair and consider the panel with more historic significance the 'Ring' magazine or the other notable panel ESPN...guess whos ranked #2 ?

            /thread.
            Last edited by 1hourRun; 08-13-2017, 03:27 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun
              This is a BS excuse considering how you all disregard that team Joshua was threatening to drop the IBF a few months ago if the IBF did not concede in permitting the Klitschko rematch, and how Tyson Fury had no reservations doing just exactly that

              ; Tyson was in a similar position, defend against your mandatory Charles Martin OR drop the IBF to make the fight that should take priority with Wladimir...but its funny when it comes to fighting for the LINEAL HW CROWN with Deontay Wilder to solidify a new lineage and once and for all become undisputed NAH....THAT CAN WAIT...But we would do it for a semi-retired Klitshcko tho.
              I think Glazkov was actually the mando. But the difference is Klitschko had the rematch clause in his contract, so Fury's only choice was to vacate when the IBF wouldn't change the deal. Situation would have been similar for Vlad/AJ 2 if he hadn't retired. Only difference was the IBF was willing to give an exception this time. I don't think either Joshua or Wilder should drop any belts unless they absolutely have to. I would rather see both guys fight their mandos for belts than fight each other without any belts on the line.

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                #37
                Originally posted by 1hourRun
                I think I made a sound argument in my last post and exposed the hypocrisy of Anthony Joshua's fans : so you are left to resort in a weak argument regarding Deontay Wilder's ranking to undermine the fact that Wilder vs. Joshua is the fight that should take priority over mandatories....well to you sir and all the other clowns on the A.J bandwagon you yourselves do not believe that a failed PED cheat Ortiz has a better resume but here if you reference TBRB lets be fair and consider the panel with more historic significance the 'Ring' magazine or the other notable panel ESPN...guess whos ranked #2 ?

                /thread.
                Haha. I like Wilder, youll never catch me saying a bad word about him, has his flaws but I dont endlessly use them against him. Wanna see Joshua/Wilder as much as anyone, but Im also a realist and know theres no way the fight happens, for various reasons, for at least 9 months.

                By the way Ring still has Fury as its champion. Whats going on with that? Breaking their own rules now

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Kigali
                  At least he's calling them out.

                  I haven't heard **** from Joshua's mummy ass.

                  Seem like Wilder is the only guy that wants to unify the division.
                  This is why certain fans get reputations for being idiots - because they put so much stock into a callout, above and beyond the reality of a situation. It's pretty ****ing clear reality is something some fans can't comprehend.

                  Why the **** would AJ entertain Wilder right now when EVERYONE (except yourself) knows he has to deal with this mandatories first? A callout like this is a waste of oxygen designed purely to satisfy the desires of fans who have no clue what's going on.

                  I might as well call out Joshua, it means as much as any other right now.

                  How many articles and how much time do you need to get this basic **** drilled into your head?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BigZ44
                    I think Glazkov was actually the mando. But the difference is Klitschko had the rematch clause in his contract, so Fury's only choice was to vacate when the IBF wouldn't change the deal. Situation would have been similar for Vlad/AJ 2 if he hadn't retired.Only difference was the IBF was willing to give an exception this time. I don't think either Joshua or Wilder should drop any belts unless they absolutely have to. I would rather see both guys fight their mandos for belts than fight each other without any belts on the line.
                    You are forgetting that there was no guarantee of the exception being granted and much debate occurred during that time as reports kept coming in during that last few weeks, still Eddie Hearn AND Joshua clearly stated on the record that they would vacate long before they took this gamble with the IBF, because a Klitschko rematch obviously had greater significance than a Pulev whos the current mandatory challenger -- the whole point of my reply is that there is precedence in the HW division initiated with Tyson Fury and was about to be repeated by Joshua but unlike Tyson Joshua will not drop the IBF to fight for what really matters, hes only looking to line up his pockets before taking the big risk IF he even dares -- I personally see the winner or Parker-Hughie or even a Tyson Fury getting a crack at A.J before Deontay Wilder.

                    I think you are right about Glazkov regardless we are talking about the mandatory excuses.


                    Originally posted by Randall Cunning
                    Haha. I like Wilder, youll never catch me saying a bad word about him, has his flaws but I dont endlessly use them against him. Wanna see Joshua/Wilder as much as anyone, but Im also a realist and know theres no way the fight happens, for various reasons, for at least 9 months.

                    By the way Ring still has Fury as its champion. Whats going on with that? Breaking their own rules now
                    This is more of a honest reply from the last one. And the 'Ring' has Fury as champion still despite him announcing his retirement, but that has no bearing on my point ; they have A.J #.1 and Deontay #2. so these are just formalities until these two get it on to crown a new 'Lineal' champ.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
                      This is why certain fans get reputations for being idiots - because they put so much stock into a callout, above and beyond the reality of a situation. It's pretty ****ing clear reality is something some fans can't comprehend.

                      Why the **** would AJ entertain Wilder right now when EVERYONE (except yourself) knows he has to deal with this mandatories first? A callout like this is a waste of oxygen designed purely to satisfy the desires of fans who have no clue what's going on.

                      I might as well call out Joshua, it means as much as any other right now.

                      How many articles and how much time do you need to get this basic **** drilled into your head?
                      Speaking of idiot fans

                      You know DAMN well Mandos are easily set aside for unification bouts.

                      Just admit you fear Wilder will baptize the dope dealing mummy.

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