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  • Banko Villas
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    #1

    SRR's best wins

    So? Tell me the best guys that Sugar Ray Robinson defeated. People keep talking ****, like he is better than Roy Jones Jr and Sugar Ray Leonard, lol.

    I don't care how good Robinson looked. He never beat anyone good. His best opponents would probably be gatekeepers today, if not journeymen. Respect the legend, but don't start claiming he would beat the modern greats, that's just ******. The level is so much higher today.
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    #2
    I really hate to admit it on here because it probably makes me sound like a dumbass casual but I don't think Robinson was as good as everybody was making him out to be.

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    • Banko Villas
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      #3
      Originally posted by Vegemil
      I really hate to admit it on here because it probably makes me sound like a dumbass casual but I don't think Robinson was as good as everybody was making him out to be.
      He was good for his time, no doubt.

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      • CatchAndShoot
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        I don't care what anyone says, imo, sugar Ray Leonard was the GOAT WW, and GOAT, period. Literally no boxer in the history of the game has beaten as many elite ATG fighters in their primes, and all with distinctly different styles as SRL has.

        If there is a P4P GOAT in boxing, it has to be SRL. No weakness to Amy style, has beaten every style, and has beaten the most elite versions of those styles. GOAT resume, imo.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          #5
          On another forum i got half way through breaking down his top fights.

          Im not an expert so may have missed some or quite a few, or maybe included some which there is legit reasons to exclude them...

          Robinsons Career in big fights (that i know about).... Vol I (until i need to go eat)

          Oct 1940 - Debut
          07/41 - Win - Sammy Angott (Former and Future multiple time LW champ)
          09/41 - Win - Marty Servo (Future WW champ)
          10/41 - Win - Fritzie Zivic (Former WW champ)
          01/42 - Win - Fritzie Zivic II
          02/42 - Win - Maxie Berger (former JWW champion)
          05/42 - Win - Marty Servo II
          07/42 - Win - Sammy Angott II
          10/42 - Win - Jake Lamotta (future multiple time MW champion)
          02/43 - Lost - Jake Lamotta II
          02/43 - Win - Jake Lamotta III (no that isnt a typo on the date)
          08/43 - Win - Henry Armstrong (Former FW Champion, Former LW Champion, Former WW Champion)
          01/45 - Win - Tommy Bell (WW contender)
          02/45 - Win - Jake Lamotta IV
          05/45 - Draw - Jose Basora (MW contender)
          09/45 - Win - Jake Lamotta V
          03/46 - Win - Sammy Angott III
          11/46 - Win - Artie Levine (MW contender)
          12/46 - Win - Tommy Bell (**Wins First Title at WW** - How about that for an apprenticeship?)
          *Fights a slew of contenders*
          09/48 - Win - Kid Gavilan (Future WW Champion)
          07/49 - Win - Kid Gavilan II
          08/50 - Win - Jose Basora II
          10/50 - Win - Bobo Olson (Future MW Champion)
          02/51 - Win - Jake Lamotta VI (**Wins MW Title** - Commonly known as the St Valentines Day massacre)
          07/51 - Lost - Randy Turpin (Loses MW Title to Turpin. Robinson is currently 128-1-2)
          09/51 - Win - Randy Turpin (Wins back MW title)
          03/52 - Win - Bobo Olson II
          04/52 - Win - Rocky Graziano (Former MW Champion)
          06/52 - Lost - Joey Maxim (Current LHW Champion. Robinson was winning until his opponents size, and the incredible heat in the arena, caused him to collapse from heat prostration)
          Last edited by Tom Cruise; 08-11-2017, 03:45 AM.

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          • MurkaMan
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            #6
            Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
            I don't care what anyone says, imo, sugar Ray Leonard was the GOAT WW, and GOAT, period. Literally no boxer in the history of the game has beaten as many elite ATG fighters in their primes, and all with distinctly different styles as SRL has.

            If there is a P4P GOAT in boxing, it has to be SRL. No weakness to Amy style, has beaten every style, and has beaten the most elite versions of those styles. GOAT resume, imo.
            Floyd is 20 times the fighter SRL ever will be. On paper, SRL has a better resume due to the names he fought. But 80% of Floyd's opponents are 15lbs bigger than him. He got to a point in his career, began aging backwards, faced young giants, didnt have the power to hurt them,

            But was so talented, he humiliated them on pure skills. Their will never be another fighter like Floyd and SRL most def is NOT that guy. Imagine SRL being at the same circumstantial disadvantages as Floyd, he would get buttrapped in the ring.

            In fact, their is no fighter in history that could be at Floyd's circumstantial disadvantages, and perform that well. Not one single fighter.

            I have Floyd top ATG, Ali after Floyd. And Maybe SRL can find his way on the bottom of an ATG list, but Floyd is unmatched imo!

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            • Long jabber
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              #7
              i think srr is the goat. he knew boxing and pugilism like Gordon Ramsey knows how to prepare and cook a steak


              floyd mayweather is really good too. if he gets a win over canelo/ggg winnner he has his name in there for goat as well. wont be able to argue it any more at that point

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              • CatchAndShoot
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                #8
                Originally posted by MurkaMan
                Floyd is 20 times the fighter SRL ever will be. On paper, SRL has a better resume due to the names he fought. But 80% of Floyd's opponents are 15lbs bigger than him. He got to a point in his career, began aging backwards, faced young giants, didnt have the power to hurt them,

                But was so talented, he humiliated them on pure skills. Their will never be another fighter like Floyd and SRL most def is NOT that guy. Imagine SRL being at the same circumstantial disadvantages as Floyd, he would get buttrapped in the ring.

                In fact, their is no fighter in history that could be at Floyd's circumstantial disadvantages, and perform that well. Not one single fighter.

                I have Floyd top ATG, Ali after Floyd. And Maybe SRL can find his way on the bottom of an ATG list, but Floyd is unmatched imo!
                I literally didn't read this. STFU.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #9
                  Stop being lazy and making yourself look like a fool and do some research.

                  Who did he beat?

                  He beat everybody. Refer to the post of fighters listed. Btw he would have also beaten the Light Heavyweight Champion of the world but he nearly suffered from heat stroke. By all accounts he was winning the fight before his body failed him.

                  If you don't know who Kid Gavilan is for example then you need to do some home work

                  SRR started his career at a Junior Welterweight and he knocked out the Middleweight Champion going backwards in his 20th year as a pro.

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                  • -Antonio-
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan
                    Floyd is 20 times the fighter SRL ever will be. On paper, SRL has a better resume due to the names he fought. But 80% of Floyd's opponents are 15lbs bigger than him. He got to a point in his career, began aging backwards, faced young giants, didnt have the power to hurt them,

                    But was so talented, he humiliated them on pure skills. Their will never be another fighter like Floyd and SRL most def is NOT that guy. Imagine SRL being at the same circumstantial disadvantages as Floyd, he would get buttrapped in the ring.

                    In fact, their is no fighter in history that could be at Floyd's circumstantial disadvantages, and perform that well. Not one single fighter.

                    I have Floyd top ATG, Ali after Floyd. And Maybe SRL can find his way on the bottom of an ATG list, but Floyd is unmatched imo!
                    Yeah it's too bad Leonard never fought anyone bigger than him. He is really lacking there.

                    Maybe if he beat one of the top 3 Middleweights ever and stopped one of the biggest WW's ever he would be as impressive as Floyd.

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