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  • LeftRytGoodNite
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    #31
    Originally posted by vaborikua2014
    How did you see nate vs conor 2 and how would you see nate vs conor 3 if it happened?
    Ahh yes the notorious Rivaly of Diaz and MAcgreggor.

    To this day still a huge point of contention amongst MMA fans.

    you will hear people say things like "nate outboxed conor in the first fight"

    Don't believe this rubbish its propaganda by Diaz fans.

    Conor was landing at will and slipping everything nate threw and making him pay. It was an insanely dominant first round for macgreggor. But the Diaz Bros are known for having chins like bank vaults. Conor was banking on his power to crack his chin but it wasn't quite enough.

    He gassed out and got choked. Nate did not I REPEAT did NOT outbox Conor in any way in either fight and to claim that is laughable. Conor put on a masterful striking clinic both times.

    But Diaz is a terminator and you just can't put him away.

    I had Conor in the second fight for sure. close fight. one of the best in mma history.

    Conor takes him out in the 3rd fight because it will be at 155lbs instead of 170lb

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    • Scipio2009
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      #32
      Originally posted by LeftRytGoodNite
      Ahh yes the notorious Rivaly of Diaz and MAcgreggor.

      To this day still a huge point of contention amongst MMA fans.

      you will hear people say things like "nate outboxed conor in the first fight"

      Don't believe this rubbish its propaganda by Diaz fans.

      Conor was landing at will and slipping everything nate threw and making him pay. It was an insanely dominant first round for macgreggor. But the Diaz Bros are known for having chins like bank vaults. Conor was banking on his power to crack his chin but it wasn't quite enough.

      He gassed out and got choked. Nate did not I REPEAT did NOT outbox Conor in any way in either fight and to claim that is laughable. Conor put on a masterful striking clinic both times.

      But Diaz is a terminator and you just can't put him away.

      I had Conor in the second fight for sure. close fight. one of the best in mma history.

      Conor takes him out in the 3rd fight because it will be at 155lbs instead of 170lb
      ... Except that Nate Diaz fights at 155lbs if given an actual camp to prepare

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      • LeftRytGoodNite
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        #33
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Only issue is that Conor it's very unlikely to ever land clean on Floyd, especially after Floyd spending the last 20 years of his life getting sublimely comfortable with ever inch of a boxing ring against world-level comp.

        If Conor isn't going to be able to dirty box and work in the clinch, he's down to a prayer, and even less than that if Paulie's assessment of his punching power is right
        You are correct. However there are a few X factors to consider.

        If Floyd has proven anything over the years its that fighting him like a high level boxer doesn't work.

        Conor isn't going to do that. Conor has developed a very unorthadox and extremely effective style of boxing that works for MMA. It uses a much longer range and borrows A LOT form karate point fighting.

        Floyd is also older now and fighters do tend to get old over night (see roy jones) i'm not saying thats the case here but if it is thats a problem for floyd.

        If you are expecting Conor to plod forward like canello did against floyd your are sorely mistaken. he will have a long sidways stance and he will be lunging in and out with blitzes. whether it works or not remains to be seen.

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        • vaborikua2014
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          #34
          Originally posted by LeftRytGoodNite
          Ahh yes the notorious Rivaly of Diaz and MAcgreggor.

          To this day still a huge point of contention amongst MMA fans.

          you will hear people say things like "nate outboxed conor in the first fight"

          Don't believe this rubbish its propaganda by Diaz fans.

          Conor was landing at will and slipping everything nate threw and making him pay. It was an insanely dominant first round for macgreggor. But the Diaz Bros are known for having chins like bank vaults. Conor was banking on his power to crack his chin but it wasn't quite enough.

          He gassed out and got choked. Nate did not I REPEAT did NOT outbox Conor in any way in either fight and to claim that is laughable. Conor put on a masterful striking clinic both times.

          But Diaz is a terminator and you just can't put him away.

          I had Conor in the second fight for sure. close fight. one of the best in mma history.

          Conor takes him out in the 3rd fight because it will be at 155lbs instead of 170lb
          How do you rate conors defense? I only saw like a minute of the 2nd round vs nate and he was getting tagged alot by nate who has slow hands compared to Floyd.

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          • jay543
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            #35
            Originally posted by LeftRytGoodNite
            You are correct. However there are a few X factors to consider.

            If Floyd has proven anything over the years its that fighting him like a high level boxer doesn't work.

            Conor isn't going to do that. Conor has developed a very unorthadox and extremely effective style of boxing that works for MMA. It uses a much longer range and borrows A LOT form karate point fighting.

            Floyd is also older now and fighters do tend to get old over night (see roy jones) i'm not saying thats the case here but if it is thats a problem for floyd.

            If you are expecting Conor to plod forward like canello did against floyd your are sorely mistaken. he will have a long sidways stance and he will be lunging in and out with blitzes. whether it works or not remains to be seen.
            It's going to be lunge in, miss completely totally off balance, get countered with straight rights and left hooks all night long.

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              #36
              Who is the best of all time?

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              • LeftRytGoodNite
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                #37
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                ... Except that Nate Diaz fights at 155lbs if given an actual camp to prepare
                Correct Nate diaz is a 155 lber. Conor is a 145lber who wants to make 155 his new home.

                Nate has fought at 170 before but mostly at 155.

                Both guys cut extreme amounts of weight to make their weight classes.

                Nate is the bigger guy though. He is big for 155 and Conor is small for 155.

                Conor can't hit 170 holding 4 bricks. nate walks around at 180 ish off season.

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                • LeftRytGoodNite
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jay543
                  It's going to be lunge in, miss completely totally off balance, get countered with straight rights and left hooks all night long.
                  You are probably right. A man can dream though.

                  Come on... I know you guys all hate Floyd.... Don't you wanna see him get sparked out?

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                  • jay543
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LeftRytGoodNite
                    You are probably right. A man can dream though.

                    Come on... I know you guys all hate Floyd.... Don't you wanna see him get sparked out?
                    It's a the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of deal.

                    We wanna see Floyd get sparked out, but not by a ****stain who disrespects boxing the way Mcgregor does.

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                    • LeftRytGoodNite
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      Who is the best of all time?
                      In MMA? or Boxing?

                      For Boxing id have to go with Sugar Ray Robinson

                      In MMA there are 3 guys in that conversation.

                      George St Pierre

                      Anderson Silva

                      Jon "Bones" Jones

                      Up until recently I was an Anderson Silva guy.

                      But after last weekend its pretty sae to say Jon Jones is the greatest we have ever seen.

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