Why are people ok with Joshua ducking Ortiz?

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  • kidbazooka
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    #1

    Why are people ok with Joshua ducking Ortiz?

    Its because he's European simple as that, if Joshua was an American or anything else he would be considered the biggest pussssy in boxing.

    Bottom line is these scary muthafuuckerrs want no part of luis Ortiz, he would beat the fuuck out of all those weak a so called champs.

    Hope wilder has the balls to get in with him.
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    I thought Pulev was mandated but I may be wrong. Funny thing is, I asked why Joshua wouldn't try to fight Wilder and everyone screamed "He's fighting Klitschko! It would be ****** to talk about Wilder now!" Even though I said none of that was in stone.
    Well...... AJ is available and Deontay wants the fight, badly.

    Here's the part where the clowns pull their favorite line, "He's just saying that. Wilder doesn't actually want the fight."

    THIS IS THE FIGHT we should be rallying for rather than this fan vs fan BS.
    Last edited by Redd Foxx; 08-03-2017, 03:09 PM.

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    • Enzo Mc is SHIT
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      #3
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
      I thought Pulev was mandated
      He is.

      Unless you've got a belt or you're a mandatory you're probably not getting near Joshua any time soon. Ortiz is #1 with the WBA so hopefully they'll force it.

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      • kidbazooka
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        #4
        Pulev and the rest of those guys are bums, Ortiz is better than all them and the promoters know it thats why they keep there guys far away from the Cuban.

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        • TheBigLug
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          #5
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          Well...... AJ is available and Deontay wants the fight, badly.

          Here's the part where the clown pull their favorite like, "He's just saying that. Wilder doesn't actually want the fight."
          Hearn should try to make that fight. Hearn has already said that he has no problems dropping belts if there's bigger fights to be had over the mandatory.

          There's no excuse why it can't happen now if they're both available. They're looking at Cardiff for the next fight which is a stadium with a roof on it if needed, so it can be a stadium fight in the winter. So there's not even an excuse of saving it until next year for a stadium event.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            Joshua is a piece of **** to me. Something about him irks me. Until he fights Wilder or an Ortiz imma be on his ass. He has been highly overrated off of the Wlad win.

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            • Simurgh
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              Eddie said many times that if they don't fight Klitschko they will fight Pulev.
              I think IBF made an exception only for the Wlad's fight.

              Eddie is a smart man. He likes the Wilder's fight, but the thing is that fight is at 30% of its potential. Wilder is not a big name. If he was to beat Whyte or Bellew it would be much bigger between AJ and him - especially in the UK.

              Wilder should really work on his brand.

              As for Ortiz, well... Eddie tried the same thing with him, but Ortiz blew his chance. He looked awful in 2 fight he had with matchroom.
              Last edited by Simurgh; 08-03-2017, 03:15 PM.

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              • Tom Cruise
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                #8
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                I thought Pulev was mandated but I may be wrong. Funny thing is, I asked why Joshua wouldn't try to fight Wilder and everyone screamed "He's fighting Klitschko! It would be ****** to talk about Wilder now!" Even though I said none of that was in stone.
                Well...... AJ is available and Deontay wants the fight, badly.

                Here's the part where the clowns pull their favorite line, "He's just saying that. Wilder doesn't actually want the fight."

                THIS IS THE FIGHT we should be rallying for rather than this fan vs fan BS.
                Here is the basic situation.

                AJ is mandated to fight Pulev (IBF) and Ortiz (WBA)

                He also had a contractually binding rematch clause with Klitschko.

                Hearn managed to appease the sanctioning orgs so that they could fight Wlad as long as they went with mandos next (i say mandos, i mean Pulev as that is the title AJ has held the longest). I assume Ortiz would be compulsary next after Pulev.

                Since Wlad has declined to excersice his rematch clause, AJ will fight Pulev this Autumn, and will likely have to fight Ortiz after that if he wants to keep his titles.

                Thats why Wilder is so far at the back of the que despite it being a great fight and the most profitable one on AJs radar (not mentioning Fury for obvious reasons)

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                • BoxingFan85
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                  Here is the basic situation.

                  AJ is mandated to fight Pulev (IBF) and Ortiz (WBA)

                  He also had a contractually binding rematch clause with Klitschko.

                  Hearn managed to appease the sanctioning orgs so that they could fight Wlad as long as they went with mandos next (i say mandos, i mean Pulev as that is the title AJ has held the longest). I assume Ortiz would be compulsary next after Pulev.

                  Since Wlad has declined to excersice his rematch clause, AJ will fight Pulev this Autumn, and will likely have to fight Ortiz after that if he wants to keep his titles.

                  Thats why Wilder is so far at the back of the que despite it being a great fight and the most profitable one on AJs radar (not mentioning Fury for obvious reasons)

                  Pretty much this ^^^^

                  Ain't nobody ducking Wilder..

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                  • Wibble
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kidbazooka
                    Its because he's European simple as that, if Joshua was an American or anything else he would be considered the biggest pussssy in boxing.

                    Bottom line is these scary muthafuuckerrs want no part of luis Ortiz, he would beat the fuuck out of all those weak a so called champs.

                    Hope wilder has the balls to get in with him.
                    Pulev is mandatory for IBF belt.

                    I liked Ortiz, still do, but his last 2 fights were awful and damaged his marketability. He isn't a big draw and needs an impressive fight against someone of merit. As another mandatory he comes a poor second.

                    I would like to see AJ vs Pulev, then Ortiz, then Wilder (if he wins each match obviously).

                    Either way the main belt holders need to fight each other, enough of the bs politics.
                    Last edited by Wibble; 08-03-2017, 04:04 PM.

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