When Wilder steps up.

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#2? Since when Stiverne was even TOP 10?


Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Klitschko, Ortiz, Povetkin, Pulev, Parker.

That's what you call an Elite Level boxers in HW division.

Dont try to rewrite history : Fury and Ortiz were barely contenders, Parker was not even known when the 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder beat the ring-espn #2. HW in the world and tbrb ranked Stiverne #3.

but lets eliminate those those years because it validates Wilder as the longest reigning and accomplished world HW champion BEFORE these current pretenders came along.

[oscar9992]

Dont try to rewrite history : Fury and Ortiz were barely contenders, Parker was not even known when the 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder beat the ring-espn #2. HW in the world and tbrb ranked Stiverne #3.

but lets eliminate those those years because it validates Wilder as the longest reigning and accomplished world HW champion BEFORE these current pretenders came along.

Stiverne is a garbage... Not even Top 10 right now... Wilder's resume is total garbage, sorry. It makes GGG's resume looks good filled with World Class fighters.

Joshua KO's Stiverne in less than 5 rounds.

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Stiverne is a garbage... Not even Top 10 right now... Wilder's resume is total garbage, sorry. It makes GGG's resume look like an World Class.

I continue to refute your argument with facts and sound reasoning and you reply with your opinions. I schooled you on this thread like I did in the Klitschko retirement thread. I have grown bored of our back and forth, you are not my equal. Goodbye.

[oscar9992]

I continue to refute your argument with facts and sound reasoning and you reply with your opinions. I schooled you on this thread like I did in the Klitschko retirement thread. I have grown bored of our back and forth, you are not my equal. Goodbye.

Any reason Stiverne is Top 5-10 HW boxer right now? Nope, he isn't. Bye ret***d!

[oscar9992]

Wilder will keep fighting C level bums as he is protected & on bum 'diet'...


Ortiz fight was all talk & bluff.

[FrankieBruno]

Wilder is a solid boxer and dangerous

He has raw power and quick hands, i fancy Jousha to beat him, but nothing is certain

[DylanPatrick]

I think a good counter-puncher or pressure fighter would give him fits. Wilder doesn't look that good when he's on the backfoot.

Yeah exactly what you said you actually worded it better then me. Sorry about slow reply 👍
I was actually a fan but after watching him struggle with cans it's hard to have belief in him. I feel like his days as champion are numbered. Is there any other boxer in any division that have had almost 40 fights yet still fighting no hopers? I get ok he didn't have the longest of amateur careers but jeez rather he or his team don't have that much faith in him otherwise surely he would of fought much better fighters.

[DylanPatrick]

No,because he hasnt fought one yet.

in all likley hood we wont see him in with one bc his real first live skilled top guy is going to be Joshua.In a fight ppl will see why you are SUPOSSED to fight the right guys to better your skills.


Only way i see it Joshua himself has to fight ortiz after Pulev forcing Wilder to make a legit fight...really dont be surprised if an INJURY from team wilder comes about after the Stiverne fight.

Joshua will go through him like a hot knife through butter. People keep pining for this fight but I actually understand that this needs to be built up.. Besides the obvious wbc Strap wilder literally brings nothing to the table in my opinion like he isn't a draw most American boxing fans could care less about him and he can only fill an arena in Alabama!! Wether people like him or not Joshua is global like he's huge but don't get me wrong AJ is flawed I wouldn't try to insult anyone by saying he isn't but he's still much much more technically sound than deontay. There's no excuses for this bronze bum he needs to step up his competition it's really emberassing. When the likes of Molina are going life and death with you but gets ran through and barely threw a punch against Anthony. If The same Wladmir who fought Joshua had fought wilder that night I genuinely wholeheartedly believe that deontay would not of made it past the 4th Round!!

[DylanPatrick]

I continue to refute your argument with facts and sound reasoning and you reply with your opinions. I schooled you on this thread like I did in the Klitschko retirement thread. I have grown bored of our back and forth, you are not my equal. Goodbye.

You say you own people yet you actually don't come out with any valid points your whinge and cry like a girl if anybody mentions anything negative about an American fighter. Why don't you explain to us then how wilders resume isn't weak?! Without race baiting throwing insults or just been a petulant child?
Why does al haymon have wilder fighting these bums and even more so how come he struggles so badly against them? Because these are just facts if you honestly believe that because he can punch hard that makes him world class then your crazy and you need to educate yourself on this sport don't you. Because only a few weeks ago you was sucking floyds D saying that if a big left hand is all mcgregor brings to the table then why is it ok for wilder? Don't contradict yourself bro. He couldn't even deal with washingtons jab,, Molina almost stopped him... Duhaupas bust his face up for him and szpilka out wanted him. Wilder is chinny that's why he got so brutally knocked out with huge amateur gloves and head guard on. Now please educate all us ****** people on why wilder is so special please

[DylanPatrick]

I continue to refute your argument with facts and sound reasoning and you reply with your opinions. I schooled you on this thread like I did in the Klitschko retirement thread. I have grown bored of our back and forth, you are not my equal. Goodbye.

oh and by the way Joshua fought the most dominant heavyweight of his era in his 19th fight I don't wanna hear oh he was 41 that doesn't matter you name me one of wilders opponent that is as equally established. Now I know your not gonna want to talk about the Old washed up petrified Audley Harrison so who could it be 🤔🤔
Daniel Cota is who wilder fought for his 19th win 😂😂atleast Molina was number 18 for Joshua and not his 34th!! Joshua has been champ for over a year look who he's beat now compare it to wilder and you'll see the truth.