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  • JoeKidd
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    #41
    I can just see Top Rank matching 2 budding stars...and with little interest to boot.

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    • chepboxingking
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      #42
      Originally posted by WesternChamp
      postol would beat horn? just stop.

      you said postol is huge for 140? well, check this out, horn is HUGE for 147. if crawford cant stop a 140 guy what makes you think he stops horn at 47?
      Dude, Judging by your name, You're prolly not from the US so I get why you root for Horn. I get it, nothing wrong with that, But if you honestly feel horn is a better fighter than Postol is, you should stop following boxing and stick to just rugby.

      You keep mentioning Crawford can't stop Horn, and maybe he can't, But i'm not sure if you're aware that you can still win a fight without knocking the opponent out lol. Again, there's no doubt in my mind that Crawford would DOMINATE Horn in a fight. It won't even be close dude.

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      • AdonisCreed
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        #43
        That's funny. So if Manny retires Horn fights Crawford but if Manny doesn't retire he has to fight Horn again. Why does Manny have to fight Horn again, why not just let Manny fight Crawford the boxing match the fans wanted to see in the first place. Let Horn fight Bradley (unless he's retiring also) or Vargas.

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        • steeve steel
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          #44
          Crawford would ridicule Horn even worst than Postal.

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          • WesternChamp
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            #45
            Originally posted by chepboxingking
            Dude, Judging by your name, You're prolly not from the US so I get why you root for Horn. I get it, nothing wrong with that, But if you honestly feel horn is a better fighter than Postol is, you should stop following boxing and stick to just rugby.

            You keep mentioning Crawford can't stop Horn, and maybe he can't, But i'm not sure if you're aware that you can still win a fight without knocking the opponent out lol. Again, there's no doubt in my mind that Crawford would DOMINATE Horn in a fight. It won't even be close dude.
            postol is not beating horn plain and simple. and you were the one who quoted me boosting up crawford so why are you backing out now saying "you can win a fight without a ko"?. i never said crawford cant beat horn. i said horn is too big and it will be an ugly fight. learn how to read and dont post with your emotions instead use your brain.

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            • Scopedog
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              #46
              Originally posted by turnedup
              Would love to get your perspective on how Horn won that fight? I'm curious to see someone actually answer that question, I have a different opinion but am always open to the other side of the argument.
              Not really that much to say, I thought Horn was bullying Pacquiao around the ring, throwing a lot more punches, forcing him to the ropes, targeting the body, moving around constantly and catching the eye a lot more early on. Pacquiao was throwing pot shots with his left and to be fair he was pretty accurate, he was tagging him clean and snapping his head back, but he looked pretty inactive or ineffectual besides that. I didn't have him winning anything before round 7.

              Then the tide began to turn, Horn slowed down a bit and Pacquiao started to outwork him a bit to put a couple of rounds in the bank, and then badly hurt him and was on the verge of the stoppage as we all remember. I think that if you scored fights based on overall damage done over twelve rounds then Pacquiao could have won on that round alone, he busted him up and hurt him really badly. If he'd hurt him a little earlier it would have probably been a 10-8 round but Horn probably just did barely enough to avoid that. After that Pacquiao tired and Horn rallied and I thought the last few rounds were probably split between the two fighters with Pacquiao winning slightly more of them. I thought Pacquiao clearly won the second half of the fight but not by enough to offset Horn's early lead. I had it 115-113, same as the judges. I feel like most of the contention over the result comes from people probably rating Pacquiao's early work better than I did, and to be fair he was effective with the left hand, but there just wasn't enough of it for me, I thought Horn looked more like the boss.

              Back on topic though, while I do think Horn won, and I was impressed with his strength and energy, he did show vulnerability to the southpaw left hand. Crawford will have a party hitting Horn with that shot, and he'll be too slick and fast to pin down, bully and out-hustle in the same way. Also, unlike Pacquiao, if Crawford has him hurt he won't let him off the hook, he's a tremendous finisher.

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              • chepboxingking
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                #47
                Originally posted by WesternChamp
                postol is not beating horn plain and simple. and you were the one who quoted me boosting up crawford so why are you backing out now saying "you can win a fight without a ko"?. i never said crawford cant beat horn. i said horn is too big and it will be an ugly fight. learn how to read and dont post with your emotions instead use your brain.
                You're a clown dude. All i'm saying is it'll be an ugly fight indeed, but only for Horn. Crawford would destroy him and it won't even be a remotely close fight. You're trying to portray by saying that "Horn is too big and it'll be an ugly fight" that somehow Horn will make it ugly and competitive, and that's not the case my Western friend.
                Last edited by chepboxingking; 08-01-2017, 10:09 AM.

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                • WesternChamp
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chepboxingking
                  You're a clown dude. All i'm saying is it'll be an ugly fight indeed, but only for Horn. Crawford would destroy him and it won't even be a remotely close fight. You're trying to portray by saying that "Horn is too big and it'll be an ugly fight" that somehow Horn will make it ugly and competitive, and that's not the case my Western friend.
                  how is saying "too big, and an ugly fight" means crawford cant beat horn? stop posting with your emotions, you're looking like a fool.

                  Originally posted by WesternChamp
                  horn is too big for TC, i dont think crawford can hurt horn to where horn will respect crawford. it will be an ugly fight.
                  Originally posted by chepboxingking
                  The fight won't even be remotely close dude. Crawford would dominate and most likely stop horn in any weight class. Skills pays the bills. There's a huge drop off in skills between Crawford and Horn


                  Originally posted by chepboxingking
                  ..Are you comparing Postol to Horn??? Because postol himself would beat the **** out of Horn. Besides, Postol is huge for the 140 pounder and Crawford dominated him. I'm not 100% sure Crawford stops Horn, but I'm 100000000% sure he beats him easily.

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                  • chepboxingking
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by AdonisCreed
                    That's funny. So if Manny retires Horn fights Crawford but if Manny doesn't retire he has to fight Horn again. Why does Manny have to fight Horn again, why not just let Manny fight Crawford the boxing match the fans wanted to see in the first place. Let Horn fight Bradley (unless he's retiring also) or Vargas.
                    It's because Pac team knows at this stage in his career, Crawford would dismantle him. They would allow one more fight against a guy like Horn, Who's beatable and can also avenge his last defeat, but that's probably it for Pac-man. After that, I highly doubt he'll fight again.

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                    • wrecksracer
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                      #50
                      What a surprise! Bob Arum keeping things "in house"

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