Comments Thread For: Joshua: Mike Tyson Would Have Battered Me, He Was a Beast!

[angkag]

To many casuals have a higher opinion of Mike Tyson than the well informed boxing fan......

Whoaa. I'm not a casual fan. Tyson was a prodigious talent that we never got to see fully develop. By age 20 he was already a world champion, and had the speed, movement, power and aggression that few hw boxers in history would be able to withstand - and that before the age of 23.

Then he self-destructed and we never saw him peak. What age would that peak have been if he had stayed on track ? 32 ish? So not just being a world champion 10 years before his hypothetical peak, but being so with a dominance we have rarely seen historically.

Not seeing Tyson stay on track and see his talent blossom to the full extent of his potential is one of the greatest sporting tragedies of our age.

Overrated Tyson was not.

[daveydmx]

"me wanna stay humble . . . but you know what?
. . . Im Hungry" . .

[juggernaut666]

Joshua is the most dangerous SHW boxings seen (if you know your boxing) Tyson has never fought a talented fighter over 6,5 with the style Joshua brings . We also know this match wouldn't go the distance bc someone is getting knocked out bc they both like fast fights and come forward . Joshua has more weapons at long and short range distance .

Tyson however under ROONEY was not a normal fighter at 5'10 /5'11 and is only but a few who could fight anyone whenn weighing under 220 ,because of excellent defense which set up his crushing combos .

Both guys are counter punchers ,ones passive aggressive ( Joshua ) the other is a faster stalker (Tyson).Both have power in both hands and throw in combinations and both have great timing of distance .

Tyson just does everything better right now and has the more solid proven chin to compare 19 fight Joshuas .

Tyson has beat Ruddock, Bruno ,and Stewart 3 hard hitters big HW's who were threatening punchers so the myth he couldn't perform at decent level against bigger guys is false .Add in we are using 80's Tyson here around his 3rd year against a formidable Joshua who he knows he has to go full force on and you get as explosive fight as you can.

Despite Joshua at 6'6 and 30 pnd advantage (Size does matter ,only a fool thinks otherwise ) im going with Tyson here UNDER ROONEY in a very even fight that ldoesnt go past 5rnds bc something would have to fold sooner than later .

1988 Tyson vs 19 Fight Joshua ?

Tyson 5th rnd K.O

[hugh grant]

Yes, tysdon would have. But only in that small 3 or 4 year time period

[1hourRun]

Now all you ****** gurnboats are starting to fall in line with my thinking that joshua is a class act....18 months behind me you all are...but welcome to Lord Plungers Club ...invite only

Anthony Joshua is a overrated convicted drug dealer this is the reason why these writers pair him with Mike Tyson - a convicted rapist.

Whoaa. I'm not a casual fan. Tyson was a prodigious talent that we never got to see fully develop. By age 20 he was already a world champion, and had the speed, movement, power and aggression that few hw boxers in history would be able to withstand - and that before the age of 23.

Then he self-destructed and we never saw him peak. What age would that peak have been if he had stayed on track ? 32 ish? So not just being a world champion 10 years before his hypothetical peak, but being so with a dominance we have rarely seen historically.

Not seeing Tyson stay on track and see his talent blossom to the full extent of his potential is one of the greatest sporting tragedies of our age.

Overrated Tyson was not.

In 1987 Mike Tyson became champion, in 1990 Buster Douglas knocked him the **** out - some run from this juggernaut.

[GMR Evans]

Gracious of Joshua to say this, but perhaps he's being falsely modest. Even at his best, Tyson struggled against bigger heavyweights who could move - not just Buster Douglas, but, earlier, he was was given a competitive fight by Tony Tucker, who is nowhere near Joshua's quality, and a close run by James 'Quick' Tillis - and perhaps this is going too far back, but from most accounts Lennox Lewis got the better of him in their week of sparring in 1984. Joshua is not a bad mover and with his power, strength he would have had a chance against Tyson.

[angkag]

In 1987 Mike Tyson became champion, in 1990 Buster Douglas knocked him the **** out - some run from this juggernaut.

Some history for you.

Tyson lifted the WBC belt in 1986 beating Berbick, going on to undisputed a little later.

It is well documented that he was already on a downward destructive path even then in 1986, having gonorrhea in that fight.

He beat Spinks in 1988 to be the 'one and only' (as the fight was billed), and that was his last fight with Rooney as trainer. So at age 22/23, Tyson was already well on the downward spiral despite his defeat of Spinks (I vaguely remember Tyson explaining his excess sweating in the Spinks fight being due to syphilis, but might have been a different fight).

Rooney observed that after Spinks '...he stopped moving his head and started grabbing and hugging......' going on to identify this as a weakness he had in the amateurs that had been trained out of him. Tyson's development was basically going backwards at a rapid pace by 1988.

In 1990 vs Douglas, Tyson was overweight, under-trained, and subjecting himself to a whole dictionary of destructive habits.

If it wasn't Douglas, it would have been someone else shortly after, but by then Tyson was well and truly off the rails.

The question hangs 'what was the point of no return ?'. Probably 1988 when he parted ways with Rooney and there remained no-one to keep him on track.

Douglas beat a shell of the 1986-1988 Tyson, and the tragedy remains of just how good Tyson could have been if he fully dedicated himself to boxing between 1986-1998, when he would have hit that age 32 hypothetical peak.

[1hourRun]

Some history for you.

Tyson lifted the WBC belt in 1986 beating Berbick, going on to undisputed a little later.

It is well documented that he was already on a downward destructive path even then in 1986, having gonorrhea in that fight.

He beat Spinks in 1988 to be the 'one and only' (as the fight was billed), and that was his last fight with Rooney as trainer. So at age 22/23, Tyson was already well on the downward spiral despite his defeat of Spinks (I vaguely remember Tyson explaining his excess sweating in the Spinks fight being due to syphilis, but might have been a different fight).

Rooney observed that after Spinks '...he stopped moving his head and started grabbing and hugging......' going on to identify this as a weakness he had in the amateurs that had been trained out of him. Tyson's development was basically going backwards at a rapid pace by 1988.

In 1990 vs Douglas, Tyson was overweight, under-trained, and subjecting himself to a whole dictionary of destructive habits.

If it wasn't Douglas, it would have been someone else shortly after, but by then Tyson was well and truly off the rails.

The question hangs 'what was the point of no return ?'. Probably 1988 when he parted ways with Rooney and there remained no-one to keep him on track.

Douglas beat a shell of the 1986-1988 Tyson, and the tragedy remains of just how good Tyson could have been if he fully dedicated himself to boxing between 1986-1998, when he would have hit that age 32 hypothetical peak.

I mere typographical error on my part my friend. So you are saving Mike Tyson was in his prime when he was a teenager? and how did he afford to pay **********s at such a young age to contract a sexually-transmitted disease?! my gawd my opinion on this reprobate has sunken even lower -- which I never thought possible.

[Cracaphat]

Can't answer that question till AJ is at the end of his career.He's tall,strong,having power,with a longer reach and has gotten off the floor a la Douglas.Too early to judge would a peak Tyson have beaten a peak Joshua.Let's see how the chips fall.

[davef]

Had Cus lived longer Tyson would have got better with age he was a kid can you imagine if he has Cus there till he was say 28

He was the lion tamer he created a beast but soon as he was gone Tyson just became a savage with no control in and out the ring