If Canelo makes Golovkin quit/corner stop, you MUST recognize the new TBE.

[Basco]

GGG is *expected* to stop Canelo.

You don't become TBE for doing something you're expected to do, you become TBE for doing something nobody expects you can succeed in doing.

If GGG outboxes Canelo over 12 - handily - the same way Floyd did? Then he must be acknowledged as a great fighter. Not TBE.

The only way he can become TBE is to actually move up in weight and beat people. I know the Ward ship has sailed, but there are others. You can't be TBE when all of your accolades happened at one weight class - you haven't fought anybody. Hell, even Valero had wins in two weight classes.

That is a double standard if I ever saw one. Neither will be TBE. They are both very good fighters but they both have avoided challenging themselves. Canelo finally stepped up, lets see how he fares.

[1g5a22]

Stfu u nob... Canelo couldn't make JCC JR quit or an ancient Cotto but he's gunna do it to GGG! Looollll

[Graz]

I don't want to hear about low blows.
I don't want to hear about corrupt refs.
I don't want to hear about early stoppages.
I don't want to hear about paid off/corrupt judges.
I don't want to hear about drug testing.
I don't want to hear about "home field advantage".
I don't want to hear about how "old" Golovkin is.

All I'm saying - and I'm not guaranteeing nothing - all I'm saying is that if Canelo straight up stops Golovkin...you MUST bow down to the ginger. Period point blank.

Not only that, you MUST acknowledge that if Golovkin can't get past a clearly slower Canelo, there'd be no way he'd get past Mayweather at 154.

That's the excitement of the fight. It's must-win for G. That's the real test.

Oh, and another thing. I don't want to see **** jumping off the ship and on the Charlo bandwagon either like people did when Manny got schooled.

Agree 100%. It works both ways though. In the reverse scenario you have to acknowledge all of the above with regard to Golovkin.

[Vlad_]

Holy crap, the double standards here are insane.

[Combat Talk Radio]

A TBE wins his biggest fights without any shadow of doubt. If Canelo doesn't do that, he's not TBE no matter what the official result is (not like he's TBE if he stops GGG fair and square anyway, but you get my point).

Agree 100%. It works both ways though. In the reverse scenario you have to acknowledge all of the above with regard to Golovkin.

Negative. GGG can't get excessive credit for doing something he's expected to do! By that logic you credit Ortiz for quitting? No! You credit him for winning - as sad as that is - because nobody expects him to do anything other than quit at this point.

The only way Golovkin gets recognized as TBE is to move up in weight and beat people as he's done at 160. Period. He has to dominate AT LEAST two weight classes.

Amir F'n Khan has fought in FOUR weight classes at nearly the same number of fights. I don't want to hear that.

[Madison Boxing]

what a dumb thread, cause hes not going to get stopped. the guys not been knocked down in 400 fights yet people like this making out him getting stopped by a 154 pounder with average power is a possibility? Its a load of bull****.

[Szef]

Negative. GGG can't get excessive credit for doing something he's expected to do! By that logic you credit Ortiz for quitting? No! You credit him for winning - as sad as that is - because nobody expects him to do anything other than quit at this point.

The only way Golovkin gets recognized as TBE is to move up in weight and beat people as he's done at 160. Period. He has to dominate AT LEAST two weight classes.

Amir F'n Khan has fought in FOUR weight classes at nearly the same number of fights. I don't want to hear that.

I think you don't know what TBE means to be honest. What kind of fighter you have to be to be even considered as the potential TBE.

[Combat Talk Radio]

what a dumb thread, cause hes not going to get stopped. the guys not been knocked down in 400 fights yet people like this making out him getting stopped by a 154 pounder with average power is a possibility? Its a load of bull****.

I said "IF" it happens. You make it seem impossible. Same was said about Brook quitting. We saw what happened.

[Madison Boxing]

Negative. GGG can't get excessive credit for doing something he's expected to do! By that logic you credit Ortiz for quitting? No! You credit him for winning - as sad as that is - because nobody expects him to do anything other than quit at this point.

The only way Golovkin gets recognized as TBE is to move up in weight and beat people as he's done at 160. Period. He has to dominate AT LEAST two weight classes.

Amir F'n Khan has fought in FOUR weight classes at nearly the same number of fights. I don't want to hear that.

yeah well check out the comments on the article when ggg/sanchez said about him heading to 168. you all started saying hes running from 160 now its heating up. 168 is a ****ing graveyard.

[jas]

havent gone back and watched any youtube clips of canelo but from what i can remember,,,,ggg is gonna knock canelo out

canelo has a good chance if he fights ggg in middle of the ring

but i sense hes gonna try and fight like jacobs and lol he cant do that.