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Originally posted by boxingitis View PostWe the fans don't make the pound for pound list, experts do. Lomachenko is on most top pound for pound list, and in some he is number 1. Simple just google pound for pound boxer and see what come up. He is top 5 on boxrec.com.
Of course fans make P4P lists. It's a personalized list that is a matter of perception, which is why there is no absolute, quantifiable way to establish such a list and why so many experts differ. I think Loma as #1 is laughable when you have a guy like Ward who is undefeated, with a longer pro resume and much better competition on that resume. But, as I said, P4P is a personal thing so everyone weighs things differently.
In case you missed it, I was referring to contradictions from people to want to use one subject as an excuse, and in the next sentence use it as a positive attribute. I have a feeling you were just trying to defend Loma without actually understanding what I was saying.
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Originally posted by Kigali View PostLoma acted like he didn't know who Walters was when they were both at 126.
Soon as Walters moved up and looked like crap against Sosa...and after a long layoff....did Loma realize who he was.
Typical Arum WBO level fighter
Typical Bor Arum cherry picking fraud.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostTotal nonsense.
Of course fans make P4P lists. It's a personalized list that is a matter of perception, which is why there is no absolute, quantifiable way to establish such a list and why so many experts differ. I think Loma as #1 is laughable when you have a guy like Ward who is undefeated, with a longer pro resume and much better competition on that resume. But, as I said, P4P is a personal thing so everyone weighs things differently.
In case you missed it, I was referring to contradictions from people to want to use one subject as an excuse, and in the next sentence use it as a positive attribute. I have a feeling you were just trying to defend Loma without actually understanding what I was saying.
Like Ward had WITHOUT A DOUBT the best record in boxing wich is not so obvious.
You can argue that Choco as a better one, went through 4 divisions, but small men, ain't getting a fair shake.
You can argue that Nelo has a better record than Dre with wins over Trout, Cotto, Lara... well he actually does, especially if he beat GGG.
Lomo is barely P4P number 5 in my book, but he's impressing people more than Ward.
Hell, Lomo impressed more people in his Walters win than Ward did with Kova.
So OK Red, Walters is NOT on Kovalev's level as a monster puncher, but ain't that far.
Walters record ain't ridiculous next to Kov's record.
And I can understand why some people have Lomo over Ward, because a 168/175 version of Lomo would box circles around Ward IMO.
P4P is dumb because criteria and standards aren't the same for any of us.
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Originally posted by Kigali View PostLoma acted like he didn't know who Walters was when they were both at 126.
Soon as Walters moved up and looked like crap against Sosa...and after a long layoff....did Loma realize who he was.
Typical Arum WBO level fighter
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostTotal nonsense.
Of course fans make P4P lists. It's a personalized list that is a matter of perception, which is why there is no absolute, quantifiable way to establish such a list and why so many experts differ. I think Loma as #1 is laughable when you have a guy like Ward who is undefeated, with a longer pro resume and much better competition on that resume. But, as I said, P4P is a personal thing so everyone weighs things differently.
In case you missed it, I was referring to contradictions from people to want to use one subject as an excuse, and in the next sentence use it as a positive attribute. I have a feeling you were just trying to defend Loma without actually understanding what I was saying.
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