Is Money by decision a golden ticket?

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  • Deletrious
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    #1

    Is Money by decision a golden ticket?

    Right now Mayweather stands at:

    Money win -550
    Money KO -140
    Money decision +250

    Clearly, the only way to make real money on this fight, is to bet one or the other, KO or decision. KO is favored and the odds reflect that, but I'd like to explore that a bit more.

    Rationally, Mayweather is going to win. Personally, I think with the huge fines involved, Conor will avoid disqualification (which would count as a Money KO for ******** purposes).

    So will Money straight up KO McGregor?

    Here's a couple reasons yes,
    1. McGregor is hopelessly mismatched.
    2. Mayweather will be burned at the stake by the press/boxing fans if he can't put McGregor away. May actually damage his legacy.

    Here's some reasons why he won't,
    1. Mayweather doesn't throw very powerful shots. He was never a big KO puncher, and hasn't scored any stoppage since 2011, and that had more to do with Ortiz quitting trying to get a DQ.
    2. Mayweather has bad hands. He broke one fist, and has arthritis. How hard you hit is not limited by muscle, it's actually limited by how much pain you can inflict on your own wrists and fists. Big punchers often have large fists and thick wrists. Your body learns how hard it can punch without hurting itself, and that's your limit. This is why the guys with the most defined muscle aren't the same guys who have KO power, more often than not.
    3. Volume of Punches. If you can't hit hard with one shot, you need to beat down your opponent with a lot of volume shots. That's how Manny Pacquiao used to stop opponents before he got old. Mayweather has never been a big volume guy. He wins round after round on defense and accurate counter punching.
    4. Weight. The fight is at 154, and McGregor is naturally bigger. When you are punching up a weight class, it becomes that much harder to KO an opponent. The more weight you have, the more punishment you can take. Mayweather is not likely to weigh in at 154, and won't put any weight on. He could be outweighed by 10-15 pounds come fight night pretty easily.
    5. Age. This plays into all of it, limits power, volume.
    6. Legitimacy. Mayweather is on the horns of a dilemma. Yeah he'll take criticism for not KOing McGregor, but he'll also take criticism if he KO's McGregor so quickly that the audience doesn't get a show. Therefore, I don't think Mayweather will even try to KO McGregor before round 5. This makes doubly sense since McGregor is likely going to be dangerous for the first 4 rounds.

    So I see a slightly tired Mayweather with only 8 rounds to try and get the KO. As I said, his last KO against Ortiz was far from legit. Ortiz quit and was trying to get a DQ, after Mayweather punched him twice while the ref was looking away and it was sort of ambiguous whether the action had been stopped. Before that, Ricky Hatton was KOed in sort of a freak fall headfirst into a turn buckle. I am not trying to take credit away from Mayweather here, only point out how rare a KO is for him.

    140 to win 100 is good, 100 to win 250 is much better.

    What are your thoughts on most likely outcome?
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    #2
    I think the KO or under are the moves. I think one aspect of this fight people are discounting is what Conor is gonna do. And a couple of things I believe Conor will do is have bad defense which will led to him taking more punches then he's ever taken and secondly have a poor gas tank and bad round/distance management in a whole new sport with different round duration and as a guy who's only seen past the 10th minute in 2 MMA bouts.

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    • johnm is...
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      Edit. Better yet, don't even bet this fight.
      Last edited by johnm is...; 07-25-2017, 09:53 AM.

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        #4
        People don't really need to be looking to make big money on this fight. The only "big money" is if Conor wins.

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        • The Time
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          #5
          To quote Jim Lampley: "Listen it's Floyd Mayweather right?" "12 round Unanimous decision, write it down. You've ever seen anything else."


          https://********/aBluVII2FUY


          Myself, I'm not 100% sure. But I'm thinking with Mayweather's long layoff and age that it may end up just being a lopsided 12 round decision.

          I'm thinking Floyd may just want to ensure he gets the win for sure and not chance or risk a lucky shot or anything like that happening.

          McGregor may fatigue, but we'll see. But my early prediction is Floyd doesn't risk a chance for McGregor to catch him with big shots and wins by lopsided UD.
          Last edited by The Time; 07-25-2017, 10:01 AM.

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            #6
            everything boxing in possible floor.

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            • HeadShots
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              #7
              Conor gasses after 3 rounds in MMA.


              so let's give him 5 rounds in boxing.

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              • Madison Boxing
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                #8
                i think floyd will get him out of there, hes not a power puncher but hes fighting a novice. if he could stop hatton he could stop mcgregor

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                • Eff Pandas
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by johnm is...
                  Edit. Better yet, don't even bet this fight.
                  Originally posted by johnm is...
                  People don't really need to be looking to make big money on this fight. The only "big money" is if Conor wins.
                  LOL but very solid points here. Betting a fight where neither guy has had a pro fight in 2 years (granted Conor hasn't had a pro fight ever) isn't a great fight to have much confidence in betting.

                  And the Conor winning bet doesn't even pay at the value it probably should be paying at cuz of all the dumb money coming in for this fight. A pass here makes all the sense in the world.

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                  • jas
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                    #10
                    if you are betting on a fight for sole purpose of making money then there are more clearer bets out there other than choosing between floyd decision or floyd ko

                    you dont have to bet on a fight just because its a big fight

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