"You're only as good as your last fight"

[Madison Boxing]

Get out of my thread!!!!

your thread is nothing without me

[Mammoth]

your thread is nothing without me

Everybody is providing cool responses. You're making this a bout Euro fighters like always.

[Eff Pandas]

I think its 100% true for how I take the saying. So yea you are perceived more off of your last performance, good or bad, than any other performance. Look no further than Jeff Horn. Guy is almost complete garbage at the world class level, but cuz he gutted it out & beat Manny now some cats are hyping him as someone to watch out for.

[Canelo and GGG]

ofc its bull**** .fighters had loses in theyr prime and came back to beat great Copetiton

[Canelo and GGG]

I think its 100% true for how I take the saying. So yea you are perceived more off of your last performance, good or bad, than any other performance. Look no further than Jeff Horn. Guy is almost complete garbage at the world class level, but cuz he gutted it out & beat Manny now some cats are hyping him as someone to watch out for.

Horn thing is mainly trolling

[Sheldon312]

Unfortunately this is the overlying sentiment among the casuals on here and every other forum. They don't consider a fighter's volume or work or accomplishments during their prime. Duran is an ATG and HOF'er, yet if we judged him by his last five fights he would be ridiculed, called a hype job, and considered overrated by the fan boys on here who are only familiar with modern era fighters who manage to hold on to their zero until the end.

it simply comes down to who you fought. Take Crawford, Thurman, and Spence for example. Place them in an era where you have Prime Floyd, Pacman, Mosley, Varga, Oscar, Forrest, and Tito. Will they be top 5 P4P? I think not.

[Madison Boxing]

Everybody is providing cool responses. You're making this a bout Euro fighters like always.

okay sorry.i can change the examples but i think they are good ones especially the kovalev/chilemba one one. ANother one is george groves (im aware hes european), after the jack loss he was done, he was damaged goods and calls to retire. Now he looked great in his last fight, the future is rosey again. People dont seem to understand that fighters can regroup, learn the lessons from losses and improve. A loss or poor performance can act as good experience. Fighters dont put in the same level of performance every fight, sometimes they are more motivated, sometimes theyve had a bad camp, sometimes the opponent is just tricky to them. If you look at many of the all time greats they will have performances (even losses) against subpar opponents that act as an anomaly.

[GhostofDempsey]

it simply comes down to who you fought. Take Crawford, Thurman, and Spence for example. Place them in an era where you have Prime Floyd, Pacman, Mosley, Varga, Oscar, Forrest, and Tito. Will they be top 5 P4P? I think not.

Quality of opposition does count for something, but then you start watering down a lot of fighter's records. Ward beating Kovalev and Barrera at LHW doesn't put him in the same league as Michael Spinks beating Qawi and Muhammad. It puts him leap years away from being compared to Archie Moore who defeated Jimmy Bivins, Joey Maxim and Harold Johnson.

[Sheldon312]

Quality of opposition does count for something, but then you start watering down a lot of fighter's records. Ward beating Kovalev and Barrera at LHW doesn't put him in the same league as Michael Spinks beating Qawi and Muhammad. It puts him leap years away from being compared to Archie Moore who defeated Jimmy Bivins, Joey Maxim and Harold Johnson.

It's funny you mentioned spinks my next fantasy breakdown is Spinks vs Ward.

[RussB23]

I think it should be "you are only as good as your last couple of fights", makes more sense.