Comments Thread For: Arum: Team Rigondeaux Never Made Contact For Lomachenko

[richardt]

SMH...And you really believe that? The only boss in this game is Floyd.

Obviously you have reading comprehension issues as well as tangency issues. Go back and read again since you cannot comprehend what I said about Lom being involved with negotiations. English is not your first language, obviously.

[Code Red]

Steve Kim article......check"peeleft:

[richardt]

This whole 9 fights in nonsense. Look at the age he turned pro. If he did all this in his first 9 fights after turning pro at 18 then that would really be something to talk about. Floyd,Oscar, Roy Jones, any other P4P from the past would have been able to accomplish what Loma has if they waited to turn pro at 25. Loma is great talent, met him a few times as he trains in Oxnard but I believe it will be impossible for him to take on any good fighters who aren't with Arum. Only way he faces Linares or Mikey is if a purse bid is needed because I dont see Arum putting up the money or the fighters won't agree to Arum's contract stipulations of giving him future options. Loma will be fighting Beltran for his next fight just watch.

Still waiting for that list of fighters who turned pro at 25 and won as many title fights in their first 9 fights as Lom did. Lets see that list which obviously you are incapable of producing.

[filup79]

Still waiting for that list of fighters who turned pro at 25 and won as many title fights in their first 9 fights as Lom did. Lets see that list which obviously you are incapable of producing.

Re Read my comments, any P4P fighters like Roy Jones, Floyd, Oscar, Mosely and so on would have accomplished what Loma did if they turned pro at 25. Besides Loma had like 6 fights that should have counted as pro fights that aren't on his record. Loma is skillful and a talent, other fithers who turn pro at 25 aren't that talented and are held back by their promoter. Loma only got a title shot because of Arum. NOw you tell me, would any of the fighters I mention win a title within a few fights if they waited to turn pro at 25 like Loma?

[richardt]

Re Read my comments, any P4P fighters like Roy Jones, Floyd, Oscar, Mosely and so on would have accomplished what Loma did if they turned pro at 25. Besides Loma had like 6 fights that should have counted as pro fights that aren't on his record. Loma is skillful and a talent, other fithers who turn pro at 25 aren't that talented and are held back by their promoter. Loma only got a title shot because of Arum. NOw you tell me, would any of the fighters I mention win a title within a few fights if they waited to turn pro at 25 like Loma?

Re read what I said. Name the fighters who did. Not the coulda, woulda, shoulda's. Fact, those fighters would not have fought that many title fights in 9 fights because they needed to acclimate to the Pros like almost every single fighter in history who doesnt fight for a title till much later and would have been rushing things to fight for titles in their second pro fight if they had turned pro at 18 or 25. What Lom did, almost no fighter has done. And the first 6 fights were not full pro fights, they were a hybrid. Boxrec shows the most accurate records of fighters and what they show, counts. Fact, Lom belongs with with a very small list of fighters in boxing history who have had that many title fights that early.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

lil g got stuck in that fight. Yo know it. Its 2017, time to rid of the fake s**t.

GGG was not impressive...too bad "finesse" Jacobs didn't take advantage of that and his size advantage... nobody to blame but himself for fighting tentatively and hoping for a points win.

[filup79]

Re read what I said. Name the fighters who did. Not the coulda, woulda, shoulda's. Fact, those fighters would not have fought that many title fights in 9 fights because they needed to acclimate to the Pros like almost every single fighter in history who doesnt fight for a title till much later and would have been rushing things to fight for titles in their second pro fight if they had turned pro at 18 or 25. What Lom did, almost no fighter has done. And the first 6 fights were not full pro fights, they were a hybrid. Boxrec shows the most accurate records of fighters and what they show, counts. Fact, Lom belongs with with a very small list of fighters in boxing history who have had that many title fights that early.

How do you know they wouldn't have fought that many titles fights in 9 fights? Floyd won a title in his 18th fight at 20. Would Loma been able to do that if he turn pro at 18. You are putting Loma in history with greats, Loma is a talented fighter who benefited staying in the amateurs till he was 25. He was well experience fighters by that age, more experience than a 18 year old turning pro. Floyd, Roy Jones, Mosley and so on would have been experience enough by 25 to do what Loma did, they were dominant as amateur and would have continued to dominate but they turned pro early. By 25 these guys were already multi division champs. Loma beat an over hyped Russell for a vacant belt and the worst champion in Martinez. Im not saying Loma isn't special but dont forget that he's 29

[richardt]

How do you know they wouldn't have fought that many titles fights in 9 fights? Floyd won a title in his 18th fight at 20. Would Loma been able to do that if he turn pro at 18. You are putting Loma in history with greats, Loma is a talented fighter who benefited staying in the amateurs till he was 25. He was well experience fighters by that age, more experience than a 18 year old turning pro. Floyd, Roy Jones, Mosley and so on would have been experience enough by 25 to do what Loma did, they were dominant as amateur and would have continued to dominate but they turned pro early. By 25 these guys were already multi division champs. Loma beat an over hyped Russell for a vacant belt and the worst champion in Martinez. Im not saying Loma isn't special but dont forget that he's 29

How do you know the ATG fighters would have fought for titles early on if they hadnt! That means they didnt! I dont give points for things that didnt happen. The fact is, Lom is in a very elite group and that group is weighed by those who did the same thing Lom did, NOT the ones who didnt. As long as you mention Russell and Martinez, then anyone can take a list of great fighters and near great fighting and tear holes in their resume by saying the beat fighters who were past their prime, were too green, were weak champions, didnt have the stamina, had a bad chin, were overhyped, etc., etc., etc., but the fact is great fighter are great for a reason and the way Lom is going by his 22 fight if he keeps winning, he will be an ATG and is already a top PFP fighter which is not disputable.

[j.razor]

Arum didn't lowball. Rigo even agreed to the finances. He passed on the fight because of weight @ 126. He said it so himself. Weight was the issue.

And why do you believe Rigo is willing to fight at 130 when he wasn't even willing to fight Loma at 126 late 2015ish? That makes absolutely no sense, unless he is ready to cash out on one final fight for unrealistic demands of money he will never receive.

Don't matter what excuse there is this fight needs to happen ASAP Rigo is 36 yrs.? No reason for it not to happen. Dec. is the talk now so let's see what happens cuz we all know Rigo. wants it & NO excuses.....

[j.razor]

exactly. And no matter how bad you want the system to operate as some sort of fantasyland socialist utopia where a fighter's pay is tied to his skillset and not his economic drawing power, unfortunately we all live in the REAL world and not your dream sequence.......

and $10 bucks says you thought a 90-10 split for Canelo over GGG was fair because 97k doe!!!!

Then this must be the dream sequence cuz economic drawing power is how some athletes get paid...& Rigo is just as skilled if not more than life loma, loma has the size advantage.