Comments Thread For: Roach: Not Sure If Pacquiao is Mad at Me - I Haven't Been Paid

[ironmt]

Lol seeking validation from SPOON?
You lose points. If SPOON cosigns one of your post, you're doing something wrong.



Nothing you said in your biased rant indicates Floyd used PEDS or exonerated Mannys drug history.

FACT : Manny admitted to using banned substances 7 years later after winning a defamation suit and avoiding blood test.

You can't dispute this. Period.

I think the post Is just fine. He talked like an arrogant a$$hole and when It came time to respond, he was left looking like a babbling Idiot unable to refute the facts other than to say Pacquiao had losses on his record and to call names. If It was a biased rant, prove the facts and statements wrong.

Pacquiao admitted using Illegal street drugs at 15-16 years old before he became a champion. How many people have not experimented with drugs at that age? How many tests for PEDS has Pacquiao failed?

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

If I'm not mistaken these quotes were taken from the same video used as evidence in the defamation lawsuit.

Its clear the mayweathers were referencing Manny avoiding drug test and strong su****ion of PED use. I would fear for my safety as well if the other guy won't submit to blood testing.

What's important to point out is this is after Floyd attempting to fight Manny and agreed to a 50/50 purse split. Imagine that. Floyd swallowed his ego after months of going back and forth with Arum over who is the A side. Floyd offered a 50/50 split for the biggest fight in history. Even offered a 14day cutoff.

That sounds like a guy who is trying to fight.

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

http://nesn.com/2010/06/manny-pacqui...sting-demands/

This is 6 months later after Manny and his team lost all credibility at the negotiation table.

Not to mention Manny chose to take GBP and Floyd to court INSTEAD of taking the 14 day cutoff. Walked away over a week??? Even Freddie Roach admitted "the whole drug testing thing was our fault" FACT.



After all of that, I would've responded the same way. **** you, 60/40 split ZERO cutoff.

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?

http://nypost.com/2012/09/19/mayweat...famation-case/

Floyd was making it rain on strippers and never showed up for a 75k defamation lawsuit filed by Manny that he was going to lose. It wasn't taken seriously until Mannys celebrity lawyer asked for a 10million default judgement - in which the troll request was denied by the judge.

How does this prove Floyd was on PEDS again? USADA turned over 2000 pages of documents on Floyd. How does that prove Manny wasn't using? It doesn't.

You know what does prove Manny was using? Manny saying he was using Meth as a pro.

You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Biased opinion? Manny listed xylocaine/lidocaine as drugs he used against Floyd. Explain why you don't question Mannys use of this "considered" PED.

Nevetheless, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS "OFFICIALLY" LISTED AS A PED? Meth and coke. EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE OK MANNY USING METH UNTILL HE BECAME CHAMPION?

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

How does this prove Floyd uses PEDS?

What does look supsicous is Mannys ability to absorb Margacheato plaster wrap for 12 rds. Was he on lidocaine or toradol?

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Cotto would have been another name that was too green. Or he avoided xyz to face Cotto. Stop it.

Cotto lost to past prime Floyd.

Smh. He was never going to beat Floyd at any weight nor at any time.

Fact.......While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

He was right.
Know who else he was right about? Manny. Turns out he was using METH and would look horrible since random blood test FACT

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Nothing to do with PEDS. But whatever.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

He was retired.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

49- 0. You're free to your own opinion. Judges thought differently. Floyd rematched immediately.

Nothing to do with Manny using METH.

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

They both ducked Floyd.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Floyd's best weight is 140. Floyd would've been even more effective.


Still no PEDS. WHERE ARE YOUR PED FACTS?

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Yeah. Floyd walked through JMM punches and broke his orbital bone for the win. Floyd didn't out box JMM for 12 rds after a long lay off. 100% 2 pound weight advantage. And floyd must be PEDS.



Maybe Manny should've used PEDS vs JMM.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

49 fights. One time for 2 pounds. Meanwhile giving up an average of 15lbs each fight.

Manny is the ****ing king of catchweights. Wtf?

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Floyd is older than both.

[

B]Fact[/B]........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.
[/QUOTE]

Yawn.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Manny smokes METH. Period.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

that's it. **** this
I'm done. You sound like a ***** on her rag at this point.

Smh.

Let me know when you want to discuss Mannys METH AND COKE USE. STOP DEFLECTING.

[Elroy The Great]

These Links work fine.

Link to Pacquio agreeing to a 14 day cutoff

http://nesn.com/2010/06/manny-pacquiao-agrees-to-floyd-mayweather-jrs-drugtesting-demands/

Link showing that the judge ordered Mayweather to pay $114,000 for failing to answer question from Pacquiao's Attorney's.

http://nypost.com/2012/09/19/mayweat...famation-case/

14 day cutoff to a random blood test !!!!!

check those links IN THAT POST and get back at me. pac was too much of a pvssy to roll up his sleeve at a minutes notice

[ironmt]

If I'm not mistaken these quotes were taken from the same video used as evidence in the defamation lawsuit.

Its clear the mayweathers were referencing Manny avoiding drug test and strong su****ion of PED use. I would fear for my safety as well if the other guy won't submit to blood testing.

What's important to point out is this is after Floyd attempting to fight Manny and agreed to a 50/50 purse split. Imagine that. Floyd swallowed his ego after months of going back and forth with Arum over who is the A side. Floyd offered a 50/50 split for the biggest fight in history. Even offered a 14day cutoff.

That sounds like a guy who is trying to fight.



This is 6 months later after Manny and his team lost all credibility at the negotiation table.

Not to mention Manny chose to take GBP and Floyd to court INSTEAD of taking the 14 day cutoff. Walked away over a week??? Even Freddie Roach admitted "the whole drug testing thing was our fault" FACT.



After all of that, I would've responded the same way. **** you, 60/40 split ZERO cutoff.



Floyd was making it rain on strippers and never showed up for a 75k defamation lawsuit filed by Manny that he was going to lose. It wasn't taken seriously until Mannys celebrity lawyer asked for a 10million default judgement - in which the troll request was denied by the judge.

How does this prove Floyd was on PEDS again? USADA turned over 2000 pages of documents on Floyd. How does that prove Manny wasn't using? It doesn't.

You know what does prove Manny was using? Manny saying he was using Meth as a pro.



Biased opinion? Manny listed xylocaine/lidocaine as drugs he used against Floyd. Explain why you don't question Mannys use of this "considered" PED.

Nevetheless, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS "OFFICIALLY" LISTED AS A PED? Meth and coke. EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE OK MANNY USING METH UNTILL HE BECAME CHAMPION?




How does this prove Floyd uses PEDS?

What does look supsicous is Mannys ability to absorb Margacheato plaster wrap for 12 rds. Was he on lidocaine or toradol?



Cotto would have been another name that was too green. Or he avoided xyz to face Cotto. Stop it.

Cotto lost to past prime Floyd.

Smh. He was never going to beat Floyd at any weight nor at any time.


He was right.
Know who else he was right about? Manny. Turns out he was using METH and would look horrible since random blood test FACT



Nothing to do with PEDS. But whatever.



He was retired.





49- 0. You're free to your own opinion. Judges thought differently. Floyd rematched immediately.

Nothing to do with Manny using METH.




They both ducked Floyd.



Floyd's best weight is 140. Floyd would've been even more effective.


Still no PEDS. WHERE ARE YOUR PED FACTS?




Yeah. Floyd walked through JMM punches and broke his orbital bone for the win. Floyd didn't out box JMM for 12 rds after a long lay off. 100% 2 pound weight advantage. And floyd must be PEDS.



Maybe Manny should've used PEDS vs JMM.




49 fights. One time for 2 pounds. Meanwhile giving up an average of 15lbs each fight.

Manny is the ****ing king of catchweights. Wtf?



Floyd is older than both.

B]Fact[/B]........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Yawn.



Manny smokes METH. Period.

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that's it. **** this
I'm done. You sound like a ***** on her rag at this point.

Smh.

Let me know when you want to discuss Mannys METH AND COKE USE. STOP DEFLECTING.[/QUOTE]

Of all of the facts and contradictions Involving Mayweather that were presented, almost everyone of your responses are based on PEDS? How many failed tests for PEDS has Pacquiao had In his career?

You clearly can't use the fact that he moved up In weight without Incriminating Floyd. They have both fought from 106-154 pounds.

Pacquiao admitted to using methamphetamine, locally known as shabu, marijuana and ******* as a teenager before becoming a champion. So how exactly does that affect negotiations for a Mayweather fight considering Pacquiao ultimately agreed to all of Floyd's demands?

Why did Floyd agree to settle with Manny out of court for an undisclosed seven-figure sum Instead of just proving his allegations?He Is about money, remember. Why would he just give It away?


It's Ironic that Mayweather declined to agree to terms for a penalty that would cost either man $5 million in the event of a failed drug test before or after their fight on May 2nd and Floyd ends up with an IV In his arm for the first time In his career.

[Dosumpthin]

Of all of the facts and contradictions Involving Mayweather that were presented, almost everyone of your responses are based on PEDS? How many failed tests for PEDS has Pacquiao had In his career?

Manny, who had REVEALED years later used METH and COKE as a PROFESSIONAL, avoided WADA testing when it mattered most.

This is something you can not refute. The drug user avoided testing because he was afraid of _______ (fill in the blanks).

You clearly can't use the fact that he moved up In weight without Incriminating Floyd. They have both fought from 106-154 pounds.

Floyd used Boxing IQ footwork and defense as he moved up. Manny got stronger and walked through punches as he moved up.

Keep in mind Manny was getting stopped and koed by a ****ing jab early on while using METH up until he BECAME CHAMPION.

You can not dispute this.

Pacquiao admitted to using methamphetamine, locally known as shabu, marijuana and ******* as a teenager before becoming a champion. So how exactly does that affect negotiations for a Mayweather fight considering Pacquiao ultimately agreed to all of Floyd's demands?

Agreed to all of the insane A side premadonna demands except one. WADA DRUG TESTING. Amazing.

An admitted drug user wants to take 3 blood test total, 1 before training, 1 30 days out and 1 after the fight - however you critique Floyd for not enrolling in a 365 program?

Biased much?

Floyd agree to settle with Manny out of court for an undisclosed seven-figure sum Instead of just proving his allegations?[/B]He Is about money, remember. Why would he just give It away?

Why didn't Manny disclose his past history regarding drug use? Did he forget he used METH as a PROFESSIONAL?

And please provide a link to the seven figure settlement.

It's Ironic that Mayweather declined to agree to terms for a penalty that would cost either man $5 million in the event of a failed drug test before or after their fight on May 2nd and Floyd ends up with an IV In his arm for the first time In his career.

That 5 million dollar cap was so ****** even Bob Arum laughed.

[ironmt]

Manny, who had REVEALED years later used METH and COKE as a PROFESSIONAL, avoided WADA testing when it mattered most.

"He used drugs as most teenagers do as I addressed above and he stopped before becoming a champion".


This is something you can not refute. The drug user avoided testing because he was afraid of _______ (fill in the blanks).




Floyd used Boxing IQ footwork and defense as he moved up. Manny got stronger and walked through punches as he moved up.

Keep in mind Manny was getting stopped and koed by a ****ing jab early on while using METH up until he BECAME CHAMPION.

You can not dispute this.

"I can absolutely dispute this. In 68 fights Pacquiao has been knocked out a total of 2 times and TKO'D 1 time. I would think that If he was walking through punches as opposed to using boxing skill, the numbers would show a different result."



Agreed to all of the insane A side premadonna demands except one. WADA DRUG TESTING. Amazing.

An admitted drug user wants to take 3 blood test total, 1 before training, 1 30 days out and 1 after the fight - however you critique Floyd for not enrolling in a 365 program?

Biased much?

"Glad you finally came around to acknowledging the fact that Pacquiao was willing to be tested after the fight, which In and of Itself should have been enough to finalize the deal."

"I will remain biased when communicating with Floyd fans until the double standards end"

If a Floyd fan Is willing to discuss a topic respectfully, I am also.

Why didn't Manny disclose his past history regarding drug use? Did he forget he used METH as a PROFESSIONAL?

And please provide a link to the seven figure settlement.

http://abc7chicago.com/sports/maywea...t-odds/565899/





That 5 million dollar cap was so ****** even Bob Arum laughed.

"If your Intentions are to clean up the sport as Mayweather has always proclaimed, why Is It ******? Maybe because he needed that IV for the first time In 48 professional fights.LOL, your entire argument above Is PEDS, PEDS,PEDS, yet when Pacquiao Insisted on harsh penalties to be handed out If either guy's test came back positive, It Is suddenly ******.

[Dosumpthin]

"Glad you finally came around to acknowledging the fact that Pacquiao was willing to be ]tested after the fight, which In and of Itself should have been enough to finalize the deal."

Does anyone see this ****? Am I the only one reading this? Having blood drawn after the fight is good enough to catch PEDS now? That's it? That's all WADA needs to do?

There is so much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin. Not even sure I wish to continue.

Bottom line is you have ZERO idea of how/when/why PEDS are used and have just confirmed that you are not qualified to speak on the subject. You need to shut all the way the **** up. Seriously.

You really showed your ass with this statement. Not sure if you can say anything ****** enough to top it.......

"If your Intentions are to clean up the sport as Mayweather has always proclaimed, why Is It ******? Maybe because he needed that IV for the first time In 48 professional fights.LOL, your entire argument above Is PEDS, PEDS,PEDS, yet when Pacquiao Insisted on harsh penalties to be handed out If either guy's test came back positive, It Is suddenly ******.

.....I was wrong. You prove once again why you are trash.

Suddenly ******? It's was ****** back then.

A 5 million dollar cap on testing positive was deemed ****** not by Floyd fans or the biased media but by TEAM PAC THEMSELVES.

"That bet was turned down by Mayweather but Arum explains: ‘It wasn’t because Floyd was any more scared about the result than Manny. It was just that he and his team figured they would get a lot more if Manny didn’t pass the test. Just as we knew we would get a damn sight more than $5million if Floyd failed the test.’"

You're a trash poster and have not provided a single post that requires thought. You just grab whatever headline suits your agenda and your biased opinions.

[ironmt]

Does anyone see this ****? Am I the only one reading this? Having blood drawn after the fight is good enough to catch PEDS now? That's it? That's all WADA needs to do?

There is so much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin. Not even sure I wish to continue.

Bottom line is you have ZERO idea of how/when/why PEDS are used and have just confirmed that you are not qualified to speak on the subject. You need to shut all the way the **** up. Seriously.

You really showed your ass with this statement. Not sure if you can say anything ****** enough to top it.......




.....I was wrong. You prove once again why you are trash.

Suddenly ******? It's was ****** back then.

A 5 million dollar cap on testing positive was deemed ****** not by Floyd fans or the biased media but by TEAM PAC THEMSELVES.

"That bet was turned down by Mayweather but Arum explains: ‘It wasn’t because Floyd was any more scared about the result than Manny. It was just that he and his team figured they would get a lot more if Manny didn’t pass the test. Just as we knew we would get a damn sight more than $5million if Floyd failed the test.’"

You're a trash poster and have not provided a single post that requires thought. You just grab whatever headline suits your agenda and your biased opinions.

Ironic that you say my posts do not require thought, yet with all of the facts and contradictions I provided, you could not respond without using the word PEDS and the other member aboutfkntime who started this entire argument looked as bad as you, If not worse. He must have went Into hiding because he hasn't been on the board to respond In a few days.

It says a lot when a page of Information Is provided and your only response Is to accuse Pacquiao of PEDS. Floyd paid Pacquiao a seven figure settlement for such allegations that were obviously unfounded. Pacquiao has been a professional fighter for around 22 years and In those 22 years has not had one drug test come back positive.

In the biggest fight of Mayweathers career, the man who wanted to clean up the sport, refused harsh penalties for positive test results so that he could put an IV In his arm for the first time In his career.

[aboutfkntime]

Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

ABSOLUTELY there is !!

the 3 things that you dopey pacstains should never mention.....




1) steroids.....

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?

so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

2) cherry-picking.....

A truly great fighter leaves more answers than questions, but Pacquiao has left more questions than answers. Questions like.....

* Could Pac have beaten Zahir Raheem, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Soto, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Campbell, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Casamayor, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Guzman, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten JMM in a rematch at 130, cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac have beaten any top lightweight, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a top jww, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Hoya, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Hoya at 154, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Cotto, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Cotto at 147, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Margarito, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Margarito at 154, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten Margarito with 10oz gloves, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a Clottey that fought back, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a genuine jmw, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a prime Mosley, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac have beaten a past-prime Mosley when he first had the chance back when Shane was ranked the #1 welter, cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac have beaten Ortiz (a guy who laid hands on him in sparring - Roach named that session as "the best sparring ever", a guy who beat a fighter who Arum admitted was on Pac's own shortlist, and a guy who was ranked higher than any welter Pac has ever fought), cuz he didnt want none?

* Could Pac beat JMM now at 140 (Pac's best weight, according to Manny), cuz he will not allow that to happen, 145lbs (a weight that Manny has never made himself ) was the deal-breaker? *** me, that is absurd.

* Could Pac have beaten Martinez for that vacant WBC title, cuz he didnt?

* Could Pac beat Martinez at 150 now ("I will fight anyone at 150" ~ Manny Pacquiao), cuz he dont want none? Pac? Manny? Where'd that guy go?

* Could Pac beat Mayweather, cuz he hasnt?

* Could Pac pass Olympic Style Drug Testing, cuz he dont want none?

Jeez dude, that is one helluva shopping list full of unanswered questions about a supposedly great fighter.

I mean, that list is not complete either, **** we can go right back to fly, could Pac have beaten Too Sharp? Why didnt that fight happen, just like at lw, jww, and welter?

3) weight-manipulation.....




are you ready to discuss weight manipulation yet..... ?

..... or should I keep kicking you in the vagina about steroids and cherry-picking?

[aboutfkntime]

If I'm not mistaken these quotes were taken from the same video used as evidence in the defamation lawsuit.

Its clear the mayweathers were referencing Manny avoiding drug test and strong su****ion of PED use. I would fear for my safety as well if the other guy won't submit to blood testing.

What's important to point out is this is after Floyd attempting to fight Manny and agreed to a 50/50 purse split. Imagine that. Floyd swallowed his ego after months of going back and forth with Arum over who is the A side. Floyd offered a 50/50 split for the biggest fight in history. Even offered a 14day cutoff.

That sounds like a guy who is trying to fight.



This is 6 months later after Manny and his team lost all credibility at the negotiation table.

Not to mention Manny chose to take GBP and Floyd to court INSTEAD of taking the 14 day cutoff. Walked away over a week??? Even Freddie Roach admitted "the whole drug testing thing was our fault" FACT.



After all of that, I would've responded the same way. **** you, 60/40 split ZERO cutoff.



Floyd was making it rain on strippers and never showed up for a 75k defamation lawsuit filed by Manny that he was going to lose. It wasn't taken seriously until Mannys celebrity lawyer asked for a 10million default judgement - in which the troll request was denied by the judge.

How does this prove Floyd was on PEDS again? USADA turned over 2000 pages of documents on Floyd. How does that prove Manny wasn't using? It doesn't.

You know what does prove Manny was using? Manny saying he was using Meth as a pro.



Biased opinion? Manny listed xylocaine/lidocaine as drugs he used against Floyd. Explain why you don't question Mannys use of this "considered" PED.

Nevetheless, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS "OFFICIALLY" LISTED AS A PED? Meth and coke. EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE OK MANNY USING METH UNTILL HE BECAME CHAMPION?




How does this prove Floyd uses PEDS?

What does look supsicous is Mannys ability to absorb Margacheato plaster wrap for 12 rds. Was he on lidocaine or toradol?



Cotto would have been another name that was too green. Or he avoided xyz to face Cotto. Stop it.

Cotto lost to past prime Floyd.

Smh. He was never going to beat Floyd at any weight nor at any time.


He was right.
Know who else he was right about? Manny. Turns out he was using METH and would look horrible since random blood test FACT



Nothing to do with PEDS. But whatever.



He was retired.





49- 0. You're free to your own opinion. Judges thought differently. Floyd rematched immediately.

Nothing to do with Manny using METH.




They both ducked Floyd.



Floyd's best weight is 140. Floyd would've been even more effective.


Still no PEDS. WHERE ARE YOUR PED FACTS?




Yeah. Floyd walked through JMM punches and broke his orbital bone for the win. Floyd didn't out box JMM for 12 rds after a long lay off. 100% 2 pound weight advantage. And floyd must be PEDS.



Maybe Manny should've used PEDS vs JMM.




49 fights. One time for 2 pounds. Meanwhile giving up an average of 15lbs each fight.

Manny is the ****ing king of catchweights. Wtf?



Floyd is older than both.

B]Fact[/B]........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.



Yawn.



Manny smokes METH. Period.

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that's it. **** this
I'm done. You sound like a ***** on her rag at this point.

Smh.

Let me know when you want to discuss Mannys METH AND COKE USE. STOP DEFLECTING.

oh lordie




ironmt: " the posters in this thread will believe me "

spoon arrives.....

ironmt: " see, I told ya "



hahaha



a ******, scratching the bum of another ******, is not exactly reassuring




fk me, a Pacquiao fan accusing Mayweather of steroid abuse LOOOL




nice job kicking iron mike in his casual-fan pu55y