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Stating that the fight fell through due to testing Is beyond ridiculous. Floyd wanted nothing to do with a prime Pacquiao and his very own comments justify that fact.
Floyd's excuses
1. Manny isn't good enough
2. PPV numbers
3. Pacquiao has lost and I'm undefeated
4. I was dominating in the 90s. Where was Pacquiao in the 90s?
5. He fights my leftovers
6. Bob Arum
7. I'm concerned for my safety and family
8. Pacquiao wont take the drug test
9. 40 million flat fee
10. Leonard Ellerbe Denies Any Negotiations Ever Took Place
11. Mayweather Says Pacquiao Must Be on PEDs Because of His Rise Up the Scale. Floyd fought at the same weight at the same age as Pacquiao and has had a nearly identical rise up the scale. So If Pacquiao was on PEDS wouldn't that mean Floyd was also?
Number 11 Is particularly telling. There Is no way of blaming one unless you are willing to point the finger at the other.
Mayweather has gone down the EXACT same road as Pacquiao. Mayweather started at the EXACT same weight Pacquiao started at when they were both the same age. In other words, they both fought from 106 pounds up to 154 pounds. Interesting Isn't It?
Think about that, It pretty much puts an end to the PEDS debate, other than Floyd Injecting PEDS Into his hands.Last edited by ironmt; 07-16-2017, 01:01 PM.Comment
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1) address this post, you dopey inbred pacstain......
1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned
2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason
then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing
come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll
3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs
the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....
and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there
FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?
it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?
Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet
4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....
Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza
immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter
and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw
what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....
Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?
you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you
Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests
LMAO
5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard
it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?
so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?
and btw, pac-trash has SEVEN LOSSES !!
no, wait..... that would be 8 or 9 losses if you count what REALLY happened in the Marquez fights
I will say it again..... SEVEN LOSSES !!
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you are a dirty lying piece-of ****
a dirty lying piece of pac-****
Pacquiao Will Agree To Drug Testing, With The 24-Day Cut
"The negotiations fell apart earlier this year when Mayweather refused to give Pacquiao a 24-day cut-off on the testing. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off."
oh no, it had nothing to do with drug-testing, preposterous
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and listen to the rest of the pac-f@gs chime in.....
oh yea bro, you sure did tell him
that pac-f@g completely ignored a MOUNTAIN of evidence, and faithfully insisted that the fight did not die because Manny refused to drug test
you dishonest maggots are the reason why people hate pacfans
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LOL, that Is your come back? I expected more from you. You have been an arrogant a$$hole throughout this entire debate. Instead of being decent about It, you decided to resort to name calling and giving me your famous line of "waiting" and "kid" along with "I warned you that pacfan's should not to discuss 3 things....."
* opponent selection (cherry-picking)
* steroid abuse
* weight manipulation
and this Is all you have to offer? The board can decide for themselves what they think. You called me a liar because I didn't really want to get Into links and the constant back and forth, but In the end, we see who has been lying. Take care.Last edited by ironmt; 07-16-2017, 01:29 PM.Comment
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The facts are up for everyone to see. I give facts, not lies. By the way, for future reference on the debating front, lose the smiley faces In every post and you might be taken a little more seriously. Just a little friendly advice.you are a dirty lying piece-of ****
a dirty lying piece of pac-****
Pacquiao Will Agree To Drug Testing, With The 24-Day Cut
"The negotiations fell apart earlier this year when Mayweather refused to give Pacquiao a 24-day cut-off on the testing. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off."
oh no, it had nothing to do with drug-testing, preposterousLast edited by ironmt; 07-16-2017, 12:58 PM.Comment
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yes, I claim that you are a lying sack-of-****
Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.
“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).
“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”
Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?
Floyd agreed to ALL terms and he signed the contract, you fkn moron LMAO..... and what did pac-trash do? he ducked the random blood tests LOOOOOL
does it really sound like Pac wanted to fight Mayweather ?
which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?
The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459
who cares what Pac agreed to MONTHS AFTER killing the fight
Pac killed the fight over drug-testing, and it took him FIVE YEARS to find the balls to fight Mayweather as a clean fighter
I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...quiao-lawsuit/
so what ****-for-brains ?..... that did not prove that Pac-trash was clean..... Manny ducked the only tests that could prove he was clean..... why didn't Pac sue Malignaggi, who flat out accused him of juicing..... WHY? I know why, because he was juicing LMAOOOO
You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.
1) prove that Mayweather used Xylocaine in a state that was banned
2) smarten up you ***wit..... using Xylocaine on damaged hands would destroy them, because you don't feel pain..... post proof that Mayweather used it ILLEGALLY
waiting.....
you post typical pac-dribble..... just bull**** and spin
Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.
listen you dopey inbred, Margarito was a BUM...... just because Pac-trash selected him, does not make him a worthy opponent for Mayweather..... and Mayweather would have fought the clown, if he kept winning..... but he kept losing, just like that other loser Manny..... first he lost to Paul Williams, killing the Mayweather fight, then he lost to Mosley
you are a fool if you think that Margarito could have beaten Mayweather
Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.
FACT: Arum killed that fight TWICE..... once at 140, saying Miguel wasn't ready, and then once at 147
just to prove what a pac-f@g you are.....
Manny totally ducked Cotto at 150..... when Cotto was the JMW champ, Pac demanded that he come to 147...... Cotto was Top Rank's first-pick opponent, but Manny refused to fight a healthy Cotto..... instead he fought Bradley, and lost to him instead LOL
what the fk was pu55y-Pacquiao scared of ?
Fact........While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.
who cares, Margarito lost to Williams..... he had another chance to secure that fight, but he got KTFO by Mosley
Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.
so what, fights don't pan out all the time..... just like the Cotto fight at 150 that Pac ducked..... Mayweather agreed to fight Wright, Pac was too scared to fight Cotto unless he was drained
Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.
Mayweather fought a healthy Cotto...... Pac drained Cotto, then Pac ducked the rematch at 150
Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight
FACT: Marquez should have been given the victory in the 3rd fight
then, stop crying b1tchFact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.
Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.
so fkn what, Mayweather is a welter
why did Pacquiao not fight Marquez at 140?
why did he drag a lightweight up to welter, you fkn F@GGOT?
Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.
SO WHY DID PAC-TRASH FIGHT HIM AT WELTER YOU DISHONEST PIECE-OF-****???????????????????????
Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.
Pac-trash said that he would fight anyone at 150..... but he shamefully ducked Martinez and then he shamefully ducked Cotto
Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.
then STFU you whiney b1tch
Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.
they offered it..... btw, you are a dog for insinuating that Mayweather attempts to manipulate his opponents on the scales...... when Pac had 8/9 weight-affected fights at 144, pulling the little guys up and dragging the big guys down
Manny was ok fighting Hatton at 140..... SO WHY DID PAC-TRASH FIGHT MARQUEZ AT WELTER YOU DISHONEST PIECE-OF-****???????????????????????
Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.
who cares you crybaby b1tch
Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)
who cares you crybaby b1tch
Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."
who cares you crybaby b1tch
Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?
same with Pacquiao, and I will add " old "
The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?
Marquez tops both Morales and Barrera..... fighting at 146 made no difference..... after he lost to Mayweather, Marquez KTFO pac-trash in 6 rounds
and Canelo will go down as a better win, especially in hindsight
NOW, you can explain Pac's SEVEN LOSSES to me
actually make it 8, because he lost the 3rd Marquez fight
EIGHT LOSSES !!
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OXFORD DICTIONARY
eight
1. The number 8 represents Infinity and everything good in the universe which is infinite, such as infinite love, infinite supply, infinite energy, infinite time . . . in other words, 8 represents complete and unending abundance without any lack.
Equivalent to the product of two and four; one more than seven, or two less than ten; 8.
‘a committee of eight members’
‘eight of them were unemployed’
‘eight were acquitted’
1.1 A group of eight people or things.
‘the win placed Canada closer to the final eight’
1.2 Eight years old.
‘children as young as eight’
1.3 Eight o'clock.
‘the play is to begin at eight’
1.4 A size of garment or other merchandise denoted by eight.
1.5 An eight-oared rowing boat or its crew.
1.6 A playing card with eight pips.
1.7 the amount of times Manny Pacquiao lost
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LOST POST:, going cheap
brand new, still in the wrapper, has never been addressed
going to a good home.....
1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned
2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason
then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing
come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll
3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs
the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....
and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there
FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?
it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?
Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet
4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....
Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza
immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter
and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw
what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....
Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?
you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you
Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests
LMAO
5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard
it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?
so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?
huh ?
well, how about I remove the smilies from my post, and you remove the pac-dribble from yours?
honestly you whiney cvnt..... you really had to bring up Floyd's baby-mama as you desperately ran around looking for a reason to suggest that Pacquiao is equal to Mayweather.... ?
well ,he is clearly not equal to Mayweather..... which is why you had a good ol cry about Floyd's baby-mama LMAOOOO
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