Stiverne: "I'd Never Step-Aside From Wilder Fight For Even $10 MILLION, Hearn!"

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  • Ray*
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    #21
    This is why I didn't want to be quick to call Wilder a 'Duck' with the Whyte issue.

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      #22
      Originally posted by daggum
      hes had an off-career. he just flat out sucks. he was losing to ray austin i mean come on. he just got a debatable decision against derric rossy. oh wait he beat chris arreola twice hes the man! this man has had poor health and has been on deaths door step his entire career yet he keeps fighting what a hero
      Those Arreola fights were the highlight of his career and he showed progress by KOing Chris in the second fight, which even Vitali Klitschko couldnt legitimately do.True, he has had a shaky career and he seems to underperform. I remember seeing an interview where he's eating deluxe choc cake, gained serious poundage few months after the Arreola KO. Always thought his nutrition was a problem but now he seems more serious with it, talking about conditioning for months already. The Wilder fight might be his last shot at a title so hopefully he'll be disciplined and perform to his peak ability and its that rare on-form, peak version of Stiverne which i think could cause Wilder problems.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BlakBread904
        damn kinda harsh!

        I will say, that the only times Stiverne has even remotely impressed me, is when he was beating on fat boy Arreola
        wow how impressive. arreola the guy that should have lost to fred kassi and travis kaufman. are htey future wilder opponents? answer=yes

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          #24
          Originally posted by FlatLine
          Those Arreola fights were the highlight of his career and he showed progress by KOing Chris in the second fight, which even Vitali Klitschko couldnt legitimately do.True, he has had a shaky career and he seems to underperform. I remember seeing an interview where he's eating deluxe choc cake, gained serious poundage few months after the Arreola KO. Always thought his nutrition was a problem but now he seems more serious with it, talking about conditioning for months already. The Wilder fight might be his last shot at a title so hopefully he'll be disciplined and perform to his peak ability and its that rare on-form, peak version of Stiverne which i think could cause Wilder problems.
          Stivern k.o'd Arreol in 2014 .... Vitali fought him in 2009 . Molina k.o'd Arreola in ONE rnd ,and Stivern arguably lost to Derrick Rossey in 2015 the last time he fought in his 15 year or so career . Do you see anything wrong with this picture ?

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            #25
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Stivern k.o'd Arreol in 2014 .... Vitali fought him in 2009 . Molina k.o'd Arreola in ONE rnd ,and Stivern arguably lost to Derrick Rossey in 2015 the last time he fought in his 15 year or so career . Do you see anything wrong with this picture ?
            actually arreola ko'd molina in one round but that dont mean crap. one bum ko's the other wel done? he also ko'd seth mitchell in like 5 seconds pat on the back there. any fight against someone good he was mollywhooped and even against journeymen level guys like stirverne, kassi, and kaufmann he was pathetic. hes the definition of hype. fanangled his way to a title shot against an unworthy contender in stirverne and still lost.

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              #26
              Originally posted by daggum
              actually arreola ko'd molina in one round but that dont mean crap. one bum ko's the other wel done? he also ko'd seth mitchell in like 5 seconds pat on the back there. any fight against someone good he was mollywhooped and even against journeymen level guys like stirverne, kassi, and kaufmann he was pathetic. hes the definition of hype. fanangled his way to a title shot against an unworthy contender in stirverne and still lost.
              Arreola was done after 2010 , the guy self admitted he didnt like to train and probably had a mental break down after the Klitchko fight . I was showing Stivern level of his improvement ,which is non existing in what has been a non relevant career where Wilder is headed IF he cant get a top win .
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-12-2017, 08:07 AM.

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                #27
                He is only saying this because he knows no one is going to offer him $10M to step aside. They won't even offer him $2M.

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                  #28
                  Dude just threw a number out there, he's ready to negotiate. I don't see him grossing half of that stepping aside, may as well get his fat ass back in the guy and make a damn fight of it this time instead of that limp ass capitulation performance last time.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    This is why I didn't want to be quick to call Wilder a 'Duck' with the Whyte issue.
                    Te issue is Wilder could have gone to the UK smashed Whyte in a round and he'd be in line for Joshua instead he's gonna be tied up facing Stiverne and Ortiz for the next 12-18 months whilst Parker jumps ahead of him. The WBC are the most bendable when it comes to mandatories, they'd have just had Stiverne face Ortiz for the regular title and elevated Wilder to Diamond these guys don't **** around when it comes to big money fights.

                    You telling me you ain't disappointed Wilder is facing Whyte ?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ScottWeiland
                      Te issue is Wilder could have gone to the UK smashed Whyte in a round and he'd be in line for Joshua instead he's gonna be tied up facing Stiverne and Ortiz for the next 12-18 months whilst Parker jumps ahead of him. The WBC are the most bendable when it comes to mandatories, they'd have just had Stiverne face Ortiz for the regular title and elevated Wilder to Diamond these guys don't **** around when it comes to big money fights.

                      You telling me you ain't disappointed Wilder is facing Whyte ?
                      With the Bernard situation I can't blame him. Let's see how this goes with his "big announcement"

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