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  • ironmt
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    #51
    Originally posted by Code Red
    When Roach nor Arum or even Pac himself are arguing the decision that should tell you pac faithful something
    Got to give you an A for effort but 5 days Into your campaign, nobody Is buying It.



    Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

    Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

    Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

    Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

    Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

    Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

    Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

    Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

    Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Ryan ******** (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

    Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

    Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

    Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

    Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

    Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

    Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

    Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

    T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

    Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

    Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

    Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

    Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

    Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

    BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

    Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

    Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

    Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

    Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

    Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

    Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

    Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

    Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

    Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

    Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

    Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

    Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

    Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

    Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

    Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

    Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

    Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #52
      You Pac turds should go listen to The Verve - The drugs don't work. It's a great song for you.


      Now the drugs don't work
      They just make you worse
      But I know i'll see your face again




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      • bronx7
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        #53
        Floyd had painful hands a long time once took a knee pain was so bad against Jesus Chavez

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        • Lemonhead_Jeff
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          #54
          It used to be that you had to beat the champion convincingly, not just squeak by and win the title. I scored the competitive fight for Pacquiao, narrowly, but I do not call it a 'robbery'. It was an ugly, sloppy fight, which is never easy to score. I do think that Jeff Horn would not have won if the fight had been held anywhere else in the world, and based on that performance (and his previous fight vs Funeka) Horn would not be able to beat the other Welterweight titlists, Thurman and Spence. I don't think Horn could beat Shawn Porter. Would you even pick Horn over Amir Khan? He certainly wont beat Crawford. Horn should savor the moment, because 15-minutes goes by fast.

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          • Code Red
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            #55
            Originally posted by ironmt
            Got to give you an A for effort but 5 days Into your campaign, nobody Is buying It.



            Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

            Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

            Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

            Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

            Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

            Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

            Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

            Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

            Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

            Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

            Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

            Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

            Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

            Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

            Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

            Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Ryan ******** (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

            Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

            Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

            Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

            Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

            Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

            Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

            Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

            Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

            Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

            Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

            Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

            Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

            Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

            T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

            Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

            Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

            Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

            Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

            Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

            Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

            Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

            Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

            BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

            Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

            Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

            Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

            Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

            Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

            Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

            Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

            Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

            Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

            Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

            Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

            Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

            Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

            Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

            Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

            Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

            Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

            Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

            Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
            Glad I got my OWN EYES and don't have to rely on yours or anybody elses!!

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            • bronx7
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              #56
              To quote the famous Dennis hopper from true romance movie classic scene with Christopher walked

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              • Code Red
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                #57
                Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff
                It used to be that you had to beat the champion convincingly, not just squeak by and win the title. I scored the competitive fight for Pacquiao, narrowly, but I do not call it a 'robbery'. It was an ugly, sloppy fight, which is never easy to score. I do think that Jeff Horn would not have won if the fight had been held anywhere else in the world, and based on that performance (and his previous fight vs Funeka) Horn would not be able to beat the other Welterweight titlists, Thurman and Spence. I don't think Horn could beat Shawn Porter. Would you even pick Horn over Amir Khan? He certainly wont beat Crawford. Horn should savor the moment, because 15-minutes goes by fast.
                Well one thing is certain, he can beat Pacquiao!!

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                • bronx7
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                  #58
                  Walken. " Tell me if I'm telling the truth am I lying?" Am I !!!!!!! You can't dispute one fact with evidence. See whole scene on YouTube to appreciate quote and classic scene

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                  • ironmt
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Code Red
                    Glad I got my OWN EYES and don't have to rely on yours or anybody elses!!
                    Little friendly advice, next time you score a fight, keep them open.

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                    • MisanthropicNY
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ironmt
                      Got to give you an A for effort but 5 days Into your campaign, nobody Is buying It.



                      Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

                      Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

                      Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

                      Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

                      Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

                      Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

                      Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

                      Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

                      Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

                      Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

                      Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

                      Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

                      Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

                      Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

                      Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won

                      Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Ryan ******** (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

                      Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

                      Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

                      Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

                      Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

                      Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

                      Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

                      Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

                      Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

                      Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

                      Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

                      Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

                      Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

                      Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

                      T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

                      Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

                      Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

                      Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

                      Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

                      Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

                      Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

                      Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

                      Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

                      BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

                      Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

                      Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

                      Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

                      Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

                      Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

                      Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

                      Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

                      Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

                      Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

                      Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

                      Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

                      Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

                      Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

                      Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

                      Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

                      Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

                      Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

                      Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

                      Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
                      I'm glad you posted that list because it lets me know who has no idea about judging boxing fights...

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