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  • Gentblue
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    Welp Gents just looked on Wikipedia......

    Looks like Wilder has to fight Stiverne or be stripped.....


    Many in the boxing community have accused the WBC of bending its rules to suit the powerful boxing promoter Don King. The journalist Jack Newfield wrote, "...[WBC President Jose Sulaiman] became more King's junior partner than his independent regulator".[5] Another journalist, Peter Heller, echoes that comment: "Sulaiman...became little more than an errand boy for Don King".[6] Heller quotes British promoter Mickey Duff as saying, "My complaint is that José Sulaimán is not happy his friend Don King is the biggest promoter in boxing. Sulaiman will only be happy when Don King is the only promoter in boxing."[6]

    Newfield and Heller take issue with the following actions of the WBC:

    -When Leon Spinks won the WBA and WBC Heavyweight championships from Muhammad Ali in 1978, the WBC stripped Leon Spinks of his title. José Sulaimán said the WBC did so because Spinks was signed for a rematch with Ali instead of fighting a Don King fighter, Ken Norton. Norton defended the WBC title against another Don King fighter, Larry Holmes, who won the belt.[5]
    -In 1983, WBC Super Featherweight champion Bobby Chacon was signed to fight Cornelius Boza Edwards, the WBC's mandatory challenger for his title. But, the promoter Don King wanted his fighter, Héctor Camacho, to fight for the title. Although WBC rules said the mandatory challenger should receive a shot at the title, the WBC withdrew its sanction from the fight. It stripped Chacon of his title for refusing to fight Camacho.[6]
    -Under WBC rules, a fighter is supposed to defend his title against a mandatory challenger at least once a year. For fighters controlled by Don King, this rule is often ignored. For instance, as WBC champions, Alexis Argüello and Carlos Zarate, were allowed to ignore their obligations to their mandatory contenders.[5]
    -While WBC Super Featherweight champion, Julio César Chávez wanted to fight top contender Roger Mayweather for a promoter other than Don King. The WBC withheld its sanction of the fight until Don King became promoter.[5]
    -When Mike Tyson lost to James "Buster" Douglas during an IBF, WBC and WBA Heavyweight championship defense, King convinced the WBC (along with the WBA) to withhold recognition of Douglas as heavyweight champion. King claimed that Tyson had won the fight due to knocking down Douglas, and the referee's giving Douglas a "long count".[5] The referee Octavio Meyran, in an affidavit, claims that King threatened to have the WBC withhold payment of Meyran's hotel bill if Meyran did not support King's protest.[7] Because of intense public pressure, both the WBA and WBC backed down and recognized Douglas as champion.
    -In 1992, the WBC threatened to strip Evander Holyfield of his title for defending it against Rid**** Bowe instead of Razor Ruddock. Holyfield obtained a court order to stop the organization. In a taped deposition for the United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Holyfield said that the WBC wanted him to defend his championship against Ruddock because Ruddock was managed by King.[8]
    -During the 1990s, the WBC did not allow its champions to engage in unification bouts with WBO champions. However, in 1993, the super-middleweight showdown between WBC champion Nigel Benn and WBO champion Chris Eubank, promoted by Don King, was recognized as a title unification fight by the WBC. Each champion fought to a draw in his bout and each retained their respective titles.[citation needed]
    -When Mike Tyson was released from prison in 1995, the WBC installed him as their #1 contender for their heavyweight championship. Tyson had not fought in four years, but was promoted by Don King.[citation needed]
    In 1993, Julio César Chávez, managed & promoted by Don King, got a majority draw against Pernell Whitaker in their WBC welterweight title fight in San Antonio, Texas. Virtually every ringside observer and boxing analyst had Whitaker winning at least 8 or 9 of the 12 round fight, and CompuBox statistics showed Whitaker outlanding Chavez by a wide margin. But two of the three judges had the fight scored even. The fight was promoted by King, and 2 of the judges were not appointed by the state's boxing commission (in this case, Texas) like any other time; instead, they were appointed by the WBC. It had been reported that Don King had a hand in helping to secure the WBC judges for the fight.[9] To this day, the resulting draw is considered one of the most controversial decisions ever.
    -In 2000, Chávez, still promoted by King, was the mandatory challenger for Kostya Tszyu's WBC super lightweight title. Chávez did not appear to satisfy requirements for a mandatory challenger: he had not fought at super lightweight for two years, had recently lost to journeyman boxer Willie Wise, and had not beaten a top contender since losing his first fight to Oscar De La Hoya in 1996.[citation needed]
    -In 2005, the WBC stripped Javier Castillejo of his super welterweight title for fighting Fernando Vargas instead of Ricardo Mayorga, a fighter promoted by Don King. The WBC qualified Mayorga for a shot at the super welterweight title although he had never fought at that weight limit and had lost two of his last three fights.[citation needed]

  • OctoberRed
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    #2
    No way does the WBC strip him for Stiverne. When was the last time they stripped anyone that gained them big bucks?

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    • Deus
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      #3
      Wikipedia as a source?

      I could go edit that right now.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #4
        Stiverne, at this point, is a pretty terrible fight, but whatever.

        Still, you can run a day/night doubleheader (as I don't think that Klitschko's gonna fight again): Joshua-Pulev in the UK, with Wilder-Stiverne II in the US, both aired on Showtime.

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        • BrometheusBob.
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          #5
          It's the fight no one wants but we're getting it anyway

          Hopefully Wilder will schedule it soon and schedule a fight right away after that so we can be done with this shiet already

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          • mlac
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            #6
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
            It's the fight no one wants but we're getting it anyway

            Hopefully Wilder will schedule it soon and schedule a fight right away after that so we can be done with this shiet already
            Wilder's entire career has been fights that no one wants

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            • Gentblue
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              #7
              Originally posted by Deus
              Wikipedia as a source?

              I could go edit that right now.
              Remember wiki is source from other site( usually credible)

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              • Gentblue
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                #8
                Originally posted by OctoberRed
                No way does the WBC strip him for Stiverne. When was the last time they stripped anyone that gained them big bucks?
                2005 Stripped A guy for fight Mayorga instead of Vargas. They could back off with public pressure but since a lot of casuals I know, know who Shannon Briggs is vs Wilder it's not out the realm of possibility.

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