arum dropped HBO?

[Rudiamonds]

Arum bringing pac and Crawford lomocheko ( maybe verdero too) sounds like he dropped HBO

Free tv will kill HBO ....at the end Haymon won because we all know who revived free boxing

[Mr. 29K]

More like HBO dropped that POS

[elfag]

what is HBO going to even show anymore being that haymond and arum jumped ship. some euro bum chitfests?

[Mammoth]

what is HBO going to even show anymore being that haymond and arum jumped ship. some euro bum chitfests?

Whatever chitfests K2 and Golden Boy give them I guess. Poor HBO.

[Porter's Dad]

You cannot blame Arum.

HBO have cut back their budget over the years and if Arum was solely dependent on HBO (in 2017 and beyond), he'd be in a lot of trouble because of the dwindling dates. Admittedly, HBO have added two brilliant triple-headers recently but the rest of the year has been PPV fights.

HBO cannot scale back their budget and dates and not expect people not to look for alternatives. In fact, I doubt think they are panicking. They don't really care for boxing anymore. And if they don't care for boxing, then it makes sense for Arum to align with ESPN, otherwise the sport would be at the mercy of a network that didn't for it (anymore).

[al-Xander]

Arum is supposed to gain fans for leaving HBO.

[Nightfall]

Arum is supposed to gain fans for leaving HBO.

yes. the free tv fans

[Eff Pandas]

It definitely sounds like Arum dropped HBO more than HBO dropped Arum to me. I mean the fact HBO made an offer for Manny vs Horn & Arum turned them down should suggest thats true. And does anyone think HBO wouldn't wanna show Crawford, Lomo or Valdez fights in the future? I think anyone who wouldn't wanna show those 3 guys' fights in the future don't know sh^t about what boxing fans wanna see. And I'm no Top Rank apologist, in fact I trend closer to being a Arum hater, but I try to be as fair & logical in my assessment of situations as I can be.

I think HBO isn't in boxing for the long haul anymore despite them continually denying it. The writing is on the wall if you look back to the early 00's when the had ~$100M+ budget to now when they got a ~$25M budget. And the fact Nelson is the first head of sports thats been deemed a Vice President of Sports instead of a President of Sports speaks volumes to me in HBO moving away from sports, which means primarily boxing. Boxing isn't moving the dial for HBO like it used to. Is that boxings fault with all the bs & multiple champions? Is that HBO's fault for not working with other en****** more often to make the important fights? Idk, but I got eyes & I can see HBO is moving away from boxing & if they turned into a purely PPV boxing model or just had boxing on HBO Latino or just made some more massive change to how they've done boxing in the decades they've been in the game it would come as little surprise to me.

[IMDAZED]

It definitely sounds like Arum dropped HBO more than HBO dropped Arum to me. I mean the fact HBO made an offer for Manny vs Horn & Arum turned them down should suggest thats true. And does anyone think HBO wouldn't wanna show Crawford, Lomo or Valdez fights in the future? I think anyone who wouldn't wanna show those 3 guys' fights in the future don't know sh^t about what boxing fans wanna see. And I'm no Top Rank apologist, in fact I trend closer to being a Arum hater, but I try to be as fair & logical in my assessment of situations as I can be.

I think HBO isn't in boxing for the long haul anymore despite them continually denying it. The writing is on the wall if you look back to the early 00's when the had ~$100M+ budget to now when they got a ~$25M budget. And the fact Nelson is the first head of sports thats been deemed a Vice President of Sports instead of a President of Sports speaks volumes to me in HBO moving away from sports, which means primarily boxing. Boxing isn't moving the dial for HBO like it used to. Is that boxings fault with all the bs & multiple champions? Is that HBO's fault for not working with other en****** more often to make the important fights? Idk, but I got eyes & I can see HBO is moving away from boxing & if they turned into a purely PPV boxing model or just had boxing on HBO Latino or just made some more massive change to how they've done boxing in the decades they've been in the game it would come as little surprise to me.

They'll never admit it (and writers won't either), but boxing stopped being a priority for HBO when two things happened:

1. Floyd Mayweather and about 100 other fighters moved to Showtime

Followed by

2. Ken Hershman leaving

Yes, there were sharp budget cuts each year but look what Showtime has done with only a few dollars more. The real death of HBO boxing is the lack of product that goes hand in hand with the lack of vision.

[ELPacman]

The bad thing about it for HBO is that it will be tough to bring people back who mostly tuned in for boxing. They would need a huge surge in boxing to get people that subscribed just for that to go back. No way will someone subscribe for 2-3 fight nights a year. They might be digging themselves in a hole they will never get out.

But hey, if the free fights are anything to go by so far, I'm all for it. That Pac-Horn card was AWESOME. Who else didn't feel like they were watching a full blown PPV for free on a Saturday night? I thought it was awesome.