Comments Thread For: Usyk-Huck Among the Cruiserweight Fights Determined for WBSS

[Chrismart]

Have the brackets been sorted out yet?

I saw a post on the official tournament facebook or twitter page earlier (can't remember which) that had brackets set out so that the winner of match 1 would face the winner of match 3, and 2 vs 4.
I just checked back on both twitter and facebook and that graphic seems to have gone ?

If that's the case though, it gives us semi-final's of :

Usyk or Huck Vs Briedis or Perez
Gassiev or Wlodarczyk Vs Dorticos or Kudryashov

and

Groves Or Cox Vs Abraham, Eubank or Yildirim
Smith or Skoglund Vs Brahmer or Brant.


Just had a quick look at one of the bookies, they have it :

CW
Usyk - 5/6
Briedis - 5/1
Gassiev - 5/1
Dorticos - 8/1
Kudryshaov - 12/1
Perez - 14/1
Huck - 20/1
Wlodarczyk - 25/1

SMW
Smith -13/8
Groves - 7/4
Eubank - 3/1
Braehmer - 12/1
Cox - 12/1
Yildrim - 20/1
Brant - 33/1
Skoglund - 33/1

[Ajvar]

Could someone tell me why everybody picks Usyk as the most tough Cruiserweight in the World? I am Ukrainian and I was not impressed in Usyk's last 2 fights. Are other cruiserweights that slow and clumsy "not-good-to-be-heavyweights" or it's just that Usyk looks athletic like Joshua so everybody picks him?

[Eff Pandas]

This Ras***** mofo
looks absolutely terrifying..

LMFAO. I think Usyk looks like a psychopath too. He was looking into the crowd a couple times with his psycho eyes like he was wondering how many people he could kill in a 3 minute round or before the police could stop him.

I KNEW usyk/gassiev or breidis would NOT prick him lol.

Actually Gassiev had his hands tied cuz the IBF are f#ckboys & made him fight Wlod so technically he didn't NOT pick Kudryshaov.

That said I wouldn't have expected him or anyone to pick Kudryshaov in a 3 fights to you win tournament when he's the best guy among the guys you pick from so thats just smart decision making.

If that's the case though, it gives us semi-final's of :

Usyk or Huck Vs Briedis or Perez
Gassiev or Wlodarczyk Vs Dorticos or Kudryashov

and

Groves Or Cox Vs Abraham, Eubank or Yildirim
Smith or Skoglund Vs Brahmer or Brant.

I'd assume it'd be the 1st seed bracket vs the 4th seed bracket & 2nd vs 3rd seed brackets fighting in the semis, but if you're saying thats how they got it set up I got no reason to doubt you. Anyone confirm this is how its setup?

Just had a quick look at one of the bookies, they have it :

CW
Usyk - 5/6
Briedis - 5/1
Gassiev - 5/1
Dorticos - 8/1
Kudryshaov - 12/1
Perez - 14/1
Huck - 20/1
Wlodarczyk - 25/1

SMW
Smith -13/8
Groves - 7/4
Eubank - 3/1
Braehmer - 12/1
Cox - 12/1
Yildrim - 20/1
Brant - 33/1
Skoglund - 33/1

Gassiev at 5/1 seems like a solid value bet. If Usyk doesn't win he's the clear #2 guy in this to me. And Kudryshaov at 12/1 might be a nice lil sleeper pick with that kinda payout cuz I believe his power to be capable of KOing anyone in this tournament despite his lacking skills + ring IQ.

As for the SMW's first off lol for them not including Abraham. Dude is like the Rodney Dangerfield of this tournament, although I guess officially he's not in yet & likely won't be if things go as expected, but they counted dude out aggressively everywhere it seems except for the WBSS themselves. And I'm surprised Callum is the favorite, although I suppose it is pretty tight among the top 3 & could very well be shaken up back n forth before fights even take place. Personally I'd feel extremely confident in taking Eubank Jr at 3/1 & I think he's easily the best choice to get some value as he should be the actual favorite in this thing. For a sleeper I like Yildrim at 20/1 & I think Skoglund at 33/1 isn't bad either. If Callum, Groves or Eubank (assuming he gets in) lose that'll make this tournament all the more up for grabs for the other 5 & I think Groves is highly beatable, Callum is still relatively unproven & Eubank, as mentioned, might not even be in this f#cking thing if things don't go well next weekend & Avni & Erik might be the best 2 guys of the rest of the field.

[Boxing Logic]

Could someone tell me why everybody picks Usyk as the most tough Cruiserweight in the World? I am Ukrainian and I was not impressed in Usyk's last 2 fights. Are other cruiserweights that slow and clumsy "not-good-to-be-heavyweights" or it's just that Usyk looks athletic like Joshua so everybody picks him?

I don't think he looks athletic. People pick him because he dominated Glowacki who was sort of the best cruiserweight at that moment before the new wave came on the scene, at least besides Lebedev. And because he knocked out Mchunu who is very difficult to knock out, and almost knocked out Hunter who is also fast and slick. He has faced difficult styles and still found ways to break them down. He's big for the division, probably has the best skills, southpaw, and he's a lot like Lomachenko in that he can throw all these punches at half power, very relaxed, and still get guys respect, before turning it up on certain shots and really wearing guys down.

You could be right though, we've never seen him with someone as good as Gassiev or Breidis. But he just seems like the most skilled guy and he also has pretty good power. Neither Gassiev or even Breidis have his footwork or angles or combinations or defense. He also won a gold medal in the Olympics. He's the cruiserweight Lomachenko so is it any surprise people favor him lol? Not as smooth as Lomachenko but no cruiserweight is.

[mlac]

LMFAO. I think Usyk looks like a psychopath too. He was looking into the crowd a couple times with his psycho eyes like he was wondering how many people he could kill in a 3 minute round or before the police could stop him.



Actually Gassiev had his hands tied cuz the IBF are f#ckboys & made him fight Wlod so technically he didn't NOT pick Kudryshaov.

That said I wouldn't have expected him or anyone to pick Kudryshaov in a 3 fights to you win tournament when he's the best guy among the guys you pick from so thats just smart decision making.



I'd assume it'd be the 1st seed bracket vs the 4th seed bracket & 2nd vs 3rd seed brackets fighting in the semis, but if you're saying thats how they got it set up I got no reason to doubt you. Anyone confirm this is how its setup?


Just had a quick look at one of the bookies, they have it :



Gassiev at 5/1 seems like a solid value bet. If Usyk doesn't win he's the clear #2 guy in this to me. And Kudryshaov at 12/1 might be a nice lil sleeper pick with that kinda payout cuz I believe his power to be capable of KOing anyone in this tournament despite his lacking skills + ring IQ.

As for the SMW's first off lol for them not including Abraham. Dude is like the Rodney Dangerfield of this tournament, although I guess officially he's not in yet & likely won't be if things go as expected, but they counted dude out aggressively everywhere it seems except for the WBSS themselves. And I'm surprised Callum is the favorite, although I suppose it is pretty tight among the top 3 & could very well be shaken up back n forth before fights even take place. Personally I'd feel extremely confident in taking Eubank Jr at 3/1 & I think he's easily the best choice to get some value as he should be the actual favorite in this thing. For a sleeper I like Yildrim at 20/1 & I think Skoglund at 33/1 isn't bad either. If Callum, Groves or Eubank (assuming he gets in) lose that'll make this tournament all the more up for grabs for the other 5 & I think Groves is highly beatable, Callum is still relatively unproven & Eubank, as mentioned, might not even be in this f#cking thing if things don't go well next weekend.

It will be usyk v gassiev in the final imo

Ill be taking Usyk and Eubanks

Btw what the **** is wrong with that stream? there's like 5 hours of nothing then 30 minutes of groves and cox at the end?

[Eff Pandas]

It will be usyk v gassiev in the final imo

Ill be taking Usyk and Eubanks

Btw what the **** is wrong with that stream? there's like 5 hours of nothing then 30 minutes of groves and cox at the end?

Yea I think you're right all around (Usyk vs Gassiev in the finals & Usyk & Eubank Jr wins) just picking straight winners without considering odds/value.

And lol yea that WBSS show video needs to be trimmed down. Anyone checking out the shorter version (4hrs iirc vs the other 10hr one which I didn't even venture to watch, but I assume is this same show) the actual show starts at around the 3hr:12min mark iirc.

[basegod]

prediction

Usyk vs Huck - Usyk KO
Gassiev vs Wlodarczyk - Iron KO
Briedis vs Perez - Briedis W
Dorticos vs Kudryashov - Kudryashov KO

Semis

Usyk vs Kudryashov - Usyk W
Gassiev vs Briedis - Gassiev W

Final
Usyk vs Gassiev - Gassiev W

[Andrij]

Have the brackets been sorted out yet?

I saw a post on the official tournament facebook or twitter page earlier (can't remember which) that had brackets set out so that the winner of match 1 would face the winner of match 3, and 2 vs 4.
I just checked back on both twitter and facebook and that graphic seems to have gone ?

If that's the case though, it gives us semi-final's of :

Usyk or Huck Vs Briedis or Perez
Gassiev or Wlodarczyk Vs Dorticos or Kudryashov

and

Groves Or Cox Vs Abraham, Eubank or Yildirim
Smith or Skoglund Vs Brahmer or Brant.


Just had a quick look at one of the bookies, they have it :

CW
Usyk - 5/6
Briedis - 5/1
Gassiev - 5/1
Dorticos - 8/1
Kudryshaov - 12/1
Perez - 14/1
Huck - 20/1
Wlodarczyk - 25/1

SMW
Smith -13/8
Groves - 7/4
Eubank - 3/1
Braehmer - 12/1
Cox - 12/1
Yildrim - 20/1
Brant - 33/1
Skoglund - 33/1

Exactly ! You are right.

[Andrij]

LMFAO. I think Usyk looks like a psychopath too. He was looking into the crowd a couple times with his psycho eyes like he was wondering how many people he could kill in a 3 minute round or before the police could stop him.



Actually Gassiev had his hands tied cuz the IBF are f#ckboys & made him fight Wlod so technically he didn't NOT pick Kudryshaov.

That said I wouldn't have expected him or anyone to pick Kudryshaov in a 3 fights to you win tournament when he's the best guy among the guys you pick from so thats just smart decision making.



I'd assume it'd be the 1st seed bracket vs the 4th seed bracket & 2nd vs 3rd seed brackets fighting in the semis, but if you're saying thats how they got it set up I got no reason to doubt you. Anyone confirm this is how its setup?



Gassiev at 5/1 seems like a solid value bet. If Usyk doesn't win he's the clear #2 guy in this to me. And Kudryshaov at 12/1 might be a nice lil sleeper pick with that kinda payout cuz I believe his power to be capable of KOing anyone in this tournament despite his lacking skills + ring IQ.

As for the SMW's first off lol for them not including Abraham. Dude is like the Rodney Dangerfield of this tournament, although I guess officially he's not in yet & likely won't be if things go as expected, but they counted dude out aggressively everywhere it seems except for the WBSS themselves. And I'm surprised Callum is the favorite, although I suppose it is pretty tight among the top 3 & could very well be shaken up back n forth before fights even take place. Personally I'd feel extremely confident in taking Eubank Jr at 3/1 & I think he's easily the best choice to get some value as he should be the actual favorite in this thing. For a sleeper I like Yildrim at 20/1 & I think Skoglund at 33/1 isn't bad either. If Callum, Groves or Eubank (assuming he gets in) lose that'll make this tournament all the more up for grabs for the other 5 & I think Groves is highly beatable, Callum is still relatively unproven & Eubank, as mentioned, might not even be in this f#cking thing if things don't go well next weekend & Avni & Erik might be the best 2 guys of the rest of the field.

Sauerland confirmed on Friday that #1 fights #3 and #2 fights #4 in 1/2 finals.

[Andrij]

Usyk vs Huck - Usyk KO
Gassiev vs Wlodarczyk - Iron KO
Briedis vs Perez - Briedis W
Dorticos vs Kudryashov - Kudryashov KO

Semis

Usyk vs Kudryashov - Usyk W
Gassiev vs Briedis - Gassiev W

Final
Usyk vs Gassiev - Gassiev W

#1 fights #3 and #2 fights #4 in 1/2 finals. Usyk vs Briedis and Gassiev vs Dorticos/Kudryashov