Anthony Joshua Reveals How A Fight With Mike Tyson Would Go

[Elroy The Great]

its not ajs nature to be boastful. mike is a boxing icon. he probably doesnt care enough to stir the pot.

[juggernaut666]

Juggernaut only started using paragraphs himself after i kept owning him in debate.

I actually agree with him with this one though.

OWNING ? Kid you didnt even know how to spell my screen name until after 20 posts you realised it was spelled CORRECTLY ?

How does one OWN anyone when they (YOU ) are the second dumbest poster on here next to Kigali ?

[juggernaut666]

Ruddock was favored in that fight because he wasn't shot. He was coming off a win against an unbeaten fighter. He was the favourite against the Olympic gold medalist undefeated Lewis. This is the man who you magically now call shot.You said I stated that Joshua should be 220lb. I never said that. I've waiting for you to show that I said that. I dare you to prove this lie you told.

Lewis was UNTESTED ,Tyson was his claim to fameand his opponent prior to Lewis didnt throw ANY punches and froze .

The smart ppl knew Ruddock under Patterson(lasting few fights )and two fights after Tyson ( if youve fought before you would know most NEVER are the same after taking such shots for 19 rnd ) would possibly effect him and the Lewis fight showed that . Ruddock was rightly favored but Lewis was the obvious fresher more favorable guy to take over the division with Tyson out of the picture by 1993 .

You said NUMEROUS times Joshua should and would be better at 220's why lie ? You called Whyte fat ? lol You declarded ALL Hw's should fight under 230 and approx. 225 bc weight is irrelevant and i never said Murphy weighed more than Lewis what on earth are you taking ? YOU said Ruddock weighed less than BOTH occasio and Murphy in an attempt to make it look like Lewis was fighting bigger guys to suit your view (even though its irrelevant bc Lewis power changed AFTER he switched trainers and bc he DID add size by the mid 90's , ) ? That was false .

Explain why ONE fight proves weight is irrelevant bc Rahman k.os 253 arrogant Lewis ?And ignore Lewis crushed many guys he outweighed even slightly like Golota AFTER he mugged (more skilled than Holyfield ???) Bowe



Explain how the BIGGER Bowe deafeating Holyfield at 205 wouldn't show size matters ? lol


Better yet show how HEAVY footed Bowe who threw punches clumsily in comparison to Holyfield and off balance when he missed half the time along with difficulties fighting bigger HW's more his size was a more skilled fighter than Holyfield who had perfect attributes of everything ?


Explain why Bowe was better below 230 that you claimed rolled off my shoulder when he struggled with ancient Tubbs at that suggested weight ?



Why dont you explain size isnt a factor bc DAVID PRICE shows it isnt again ? That was fun !



"At Joshua's age he was 228 at the most. Would Joshua be better at around that weight. Bet your life he would. "


Was this your doppleganger ^^^^^^^^^^^^


All over the place ? No that would be you and your straw man angles .


Like i said MAKE the thread about size if you have a back bone to continously post the SAME proven wrong points by statistics ,facts and examples ....if NOT just take an L here ...real simple !

[Squ□redCircle34]

This would've been a really good fight but Iron Mike knocks out Joshua in the 6th round!

You have to have a strong jab and use your size and get real dirty to beat a Prime Iron Mike!

Mike would empty Joshua's tank in half when he goes to the body and evade those hooks!

Only thing Mike need to worry about is that right hand and uppercut!

Joshua is a splendid fighter and made a fan out of me when he beat a Future HOF Klitschko and the way he responded to adversity was brilliant!

Can't wait for their rematch to their instant classic in the first fight!

[bluepete]

Lewis was UNTESTED ,Tyson was his claim to fameand his opponent prior to Lewis didnt throw ANY punches and froze .

The smart ppl knew Ruddock under Patterson(lasting few fights )and two fights after Tyson ( if youve fought before you would know most NEVER are the same after taking such shots for 19 rnd ) would possibly effect him and the Lewis fight showed that . Ruddock was rightly favored but Lewis was the obvious fresher more favorable guy to take over the division with Tyson out of the picture by 1993 .

You said NUMEROUS times Joshua should and would be better at 220's why lie ? You called Whyte fat ? lol You declarded ALL Hw's should fight under 230 and approx. 225 bc weight is irrelevant and i never said Murphy weighed more than Lewis what on earth are you taking ? YOU said Ruddock weighed less than BOTH occasio and Murphy in an attempt to make it look like Lewis was fighting bigger guys to suit your view (even though its irrelevant bc Lewis power changed AFTER he switched trainers and bc he DID add size by the mid 90's , ) ? That was false .

Explain how the BIGGER Bowe deafeating Holyfield at 205 wouldn't show size matters ? lol


Better yet show how HEAVY footed Bowe who threw punches clumsily in comparison to Holyfield and off balance when he missed half the time along with difficulties fighting bigger HW's more his size was a more skilled fighter than Holyfield who had perfect attributes of everything ?


Explain why Bowe was better below 230 that you claimed rolled off my shoulder when he struggled with ancient Tubbs at that suggested weight ?





Why dont you explain size isnt a factor bc DAVID PRICE shows it isnt again ? That was fun !

"At Joshua's age he was 228 at the most. Would Joshua be better at around that weight. Bet your life he would. "

Was this your doppleganger ^^^^^^^^^^^^


All over the place ? No that would be you and your straw man angles .


Like i said MAKE the thread about size if you have a back bone to continously post the SAME proven wrong points by statistics ,facts and examples ....if NOT just take an L here ...real simple !

Nobody thought Ruddock was shot. Of course hard fights take something out of you, nobody disputes that. What's beyond dispute was that he was still the division danger man and considered durable. He lasted the distance with Tyson in the second fight,stopped controversially in the first. Lewis wiped him out clean, two rounds. This was a 227lb Lewis, lighter than Murphy Lewis who you tried to say was lighter than Ruddock Lewis. The point is he was in the same weight range in the Ruddock fight as he was for he's early career fights. He had impressive knockouts and stoppages. Good names, but you reckon he's best opponent was Mike Dixon in this period. This is completely laughable and embarrassing. You don't even know the year Lewis fought Ruddock. It was 92.I said Joshuas extra weight was no advantage. You claimed I said Joshua would be better at 220.Now you subtly try to turn it into 220s.Yeah 228 I'd be happy with. I never said 220,which is sub 16 stone. Show where I said this or you are a liar. Yes you can disagree with Holyfield himself who said Bowe was the most complete heavy he ever fought. Holyfield weighing the 205 wasn't the key to fight one. It was Bowe being 230odd.He could fight at a faster pace in that one. He beat Evander two out of three. Not because he was heavier, he had the better jab. Bit too fat in fight 2.. I've been over all these points. But you are the one claiming the 225 guys are at a disadvantage against the superheavy. But you just can't touch on Wlad vs Brewster and Sanders can you? Why were they not disadvantaged? Why did they hurt and stop him just fine? Why couldn't he get them out of there? I don't know how many times your gonna say all this "if you actually fought" stuff. I've boxed all my life. I told you who trained me. I'm still training now, still spar now. I even told you what gym I'm at. So, I'd be happy to continue just as soon as you explain why Wlad did so badly against those disadvantaged 225lbers who crushed him quicker than anyone else.

[juggernaut666]

Nobody thought Ruddock was shot. Of course hard fights take something out of you, nobody disputes that. What's beyond dispute was that he was still the division danger man and considered durable. He lasted the distance with Tyson in the second fight,stopped controversially in the first. Lewis wiped him out clean, two rounds. This was a 227lb Lewis, lighter than Murphy Lewis who you tried to say was lighter than Ruddock Lewis. The point is he was in the same weight range in the Ruddock fight as he was for he's early career fights. He had impressive knockouts and stoppages. Good names, but you reckon he's best opponent was Mike Dixon in this period. This is completely laughable and embarrassing. You don't even know the year Lewis fought Ruddock. It was 92.I said Joshuas extra weight was no advantage. You claimed I said Joshua would be better at 220.Now you subtly try to turn it into 220s.Yeah 228 I'd be happy with. I never said 220,which is sub 16 stone. Show where I said this or you are a liar. Yes you can disagree with Holyfield himself who said Bowe was the most complete heavy he ever fought. Holyfield weighing the 205 wasn't the key to fight one. It was Bowe being 230odd.He could fight at a faster pace in that one. He beat Evander two out of three. Not because he was heavier, he had the better jab. Bit too fat in fight. I've been over all these points. But you are the one claiming the 225 guys are at a disadvantage against the superheavy. But you just can't touch on Wlad vs Brewster and Sanders can you? Why were they not disadvantaged? Why did they hurt on stop him just fine? Why couldn't he get them out of there? I don't know how many times your gonna say all this "if you actually fought" stuff. I've boxed all my life. I told you who trained me. I'm still training now, still spar now. I even told you what gym I'm at. So, I'd be happy to continue just as soon as you explain why Wlad did so badly against those disadvantaged 225lbers who crushed him quicker than anyone else.

"Nobody thought Ruddock was shot."

Nobody but even Lewis himself !

"Had Ruddock not fought Tyson he would have been the champion "

"You don't even know the year Lewis fought Ruddock. It was 92. "

Which is why I CLEARLY stated BY 93 the division was open for Lewis to control .

"He had impressive knockouts and stoppages. Good names, but you reckon he's best opponent was Mike Dixon in this period. "

More made up fallicies .lol

"Now you subtly try to turn it into 220s.Yeah 228 I'd be happy with. I never said 220,which is sub 16 stone. Show where I said this or you are a liar. "

Now you are completely trying to avoid the entire lunacy of weight doesnt matter . You stated ALL HW's should fight at 225 bc they could go longer ,etc ...FALSE bc the bigger guys could wear you out WHICH is proved more than not . If you actually believe that you would have excepted my challenge and created a thread of why todays HW's are too big but you took an L there !

"Holyfield weighing the 205 wasn't the key to fight one. It was Bowe being 230 odd. "

The only odd thing here is you keep making your own weights up . Bowe was 235 with a 30 pound weight advantage you CONVIENENTLY want to sweep under the rug . lol

" you just can't touch on Wlad vs Brewster and Sanders can you?"

Wlad tired out in a fight he was winning the other overlooking a dangerous southpaw ,no matter what the twist you TRY and put on it . M.Tyson was in his prime under Rooney yet you use young Wlad ? Talk about STRAW MAN arguments when you do the complete opposite you tell others not to ?

[bluepete]

"Nobody thought Ruddock was shot."

Nobody but even Lewis himself !

"Had Ruddock not fought Tyson he would have been the champion "

"You don't even know the year Lewis fought Ruddock. It was 92. "

Which is why I CLEARLY stated BY 93 the division was open for Lewis to control .

"He had impressive knockouts and stoppages. Good names, but you reckon he's best opponent was Mike Dixon in this period. "

More made up fallicies .lol

"Now you subtly try to turn it into 220s.Yeah 228 I'd be happy with. I never said 220,which is sub 16 stone. Show where I said this or you are a liar. "

Now you are completely trying to avoid the entire lunacy of weight doesnt matter . You stated ALL HW's should fight at 225 bc they could go longer ,etc ...FALSE bc the bigger guys could wear you out WHICH is proved more than not . If you actually believe that you would have excepted my challenge and created a thread of why todays HW's are too big but you took an L there !

"Holyfield weighing the 205 wasn't the key to fight one. It was Bowe being 230 odd. "

The only odd thing here is you keep making your own weights up . Bowe was 235 with a 30 pound weight advantage you CONVIENENTLY want to sweep under the rug . lol

" you just can't touch on Wlad vs Brewster and Sanders can you?"

Wlad tired out in a fight he was winning the other overlooking a dangerous southpaw ,no matter what the twist you TRY and put on it . M.Tyson was in his prime under Rooney yet you use young Wlad ? Talk about STRAW MAN arguments when you do the complete opposite you tell others not to ?

Let's get this Bowe Holyfield thing done. So Bowe weighing 235,trim for him, beats Holyfield clearly. Bowe weighing 242 pounds past knocks out Holyfield in 7.Which fight does Bowe, the better heavyweight lose? The middle one where he had the most excess weight. Now anyone can just have a look and see what you wrote about Mike Dixon. Anyone can also see you said Lewis was lifting weights after Billups because he wasn't a puncher. Pre Billups Lewis was in the same weight range as Ruddock Lewis. Anyone can see this. But now, when I give you an example of Wlad getting beat by the 225er you dismissed earlier it's everything from southpaw stances to gassing. He's inexperience is no excuse. He was Olympic champ and more experienced and better trained and the favourite against both guys. It don't matter that he gassed, or some Bull about underestimation that anyone can say. He lost to the lighter guys decisively. He was smashed. He lost. He's weight wasnt an advantage. Explain why? Not some vague rubbish. Where was the durability edge. The power edge? It gave him nothing. He couldn't take their shots. He's shots couldn't get them out of there. He's strength did nothing for him. Explain.And then show me where I said what every heavyweight should do. I said that the over heavy guys, be it fat or muscle have no edge over the 225lbders.Does this not show that a superheavy gets knocked out just the same or even quicker by much lighter heavyweight punchers?

[bluepete]

"Nobody thought Ruddock was shot."

Nobody but even Lewis himself !

"Had Ruddock not fought Tyson he would have been the champion "

"You don't even know the year Lewis fought Ruddock. It was 92. "

Which is why I CLEARLY stated BY 93 the division was open for Lewis to control .

"He had impressive knockouts and stoppages. Good names, but you reckon he's best opponent was Mike Dixon in this period. "

More made up fallicies .lol

"Now you subtly try to turn it into 220s.Yeah 228 I'd be happy with. I never said 220,which is sub 16 stone. Show where I said this or you are a liar. "

Now you are completely trying to avoid the entire lunacy of weight doesnt matter . You stated ALL HW's should fight at 225 bc they could go longer ,etc ...FALSE bc the bigger guys could wear you out WHICH is proved more than not . If you actually believe that you would have excepted my challenge and created a thread of why todays HW's are too big but you took an L there !

"Holyfield weighing the 205 wasn't the key to fight one. It was Bowe being 230 odd. "

The only odd thing here is you keep making your own weights up . Bowe was 235 with a 30 pound weight advantage you CONVIENENTLY want to sweep under the rug . lol

" you just can't touch on Wlad vs Brewster and Sanders can you?"

Wlad tired out in a fight he was winning the other overlooking a dangerous southpaw ,no matter what the twist you TRY and put on it . M.Tyson was in his prime under Rooney yet you use young Wlad ? Talk about STRAW MAN arguments when you do the complete opposite you tell others not to ?

You were using Tyson Williams and Mcbride to prove a point you TOTAL hypocrite. Haha . I wasn't using this as an example of prime Wlad, I'm talking about superheavy Wlad getting took out by two guys in the lower weight range. Let's not pretend they were two unbeaten all time greats he was facing. It definitely cancels out.

[juggernaut666]

You were using Tyson Williams and Mcbride to prove a point you TOTAL hypocrite. Haha.

No that was the other poster ,why would i do that when i picked Tyson to win this ?Again get a clue !

[juggernaut666]

Let's get this Bowe Holyfield thing done. So Bowe weighing 235,trim for him, beats Holyfield clearly. Bowe weighing 242 pounds past knocks out Holyfield in 7.Which fight does Bowe, the better heavyweight lose? The middle one where he had the most excess weight. Now anyone can just have a look and see what you wrote about Mike Dixon. Anyone can also see you said Lewis was lifting weights after Billups because he wasn't a puncher. Pre Billups Lewis was in the same weight range as Ruddock Lewis. Anyone can see this. But now, when I give you an example of Wlad getting beat by the 225er you dismissed earlier it's everything from southpaw stances to gassing. He's inexperience is no excuse. He was Olympic champ and more experienced and better trained and the favourite against both guys. It don't matter that he gassed, or some Bull about underestimation that anyone can say. He lost to the lighter guys decisively. He was smashed. He lost. He's weight wasnt an advantage. Explain why? Not some vague rubbish. Where was the durability edge. The power edge? It gave him nothing. He couldn't take their shots. He's shots couldn't get them out of there. He's strength did nothing for him. Explain.And then show me where I said what every heavyweight should do. I said that the over heavy guys, be it fat or muscle have no edge over the 225lbders.Does this not show that a superheavy gets knocked out just the same or even quicker by much lighter heavyweight punchers?

So if i used Purrity of 250 defeating Wlad of 225 that proves weight matters right ? Of course by your logic?

Bowe lost when Holyfield weighed his heaviest ,Bowe won when he had greater weight gap and one when Holyfield was his lightest,im sorry this is difficult for you .

Again im done here this is officially D level trolling ,maybe i'll chime in if thers do ........