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  • Cinci Champ
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    #161
    Originally posted by Rovi
    :O The Ward Effect. Be it known as it henceforth.
    ya well just pretend kov wasnt involved as well

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    • Fabes88
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      #162
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      That's what Iole quoted, citing information asked for from the Nevada Commission. I don't fathom a reason why Nevada would like about that.

      RocNation priced the fight too aggressively, in hindsight, but you have to know where your fighter stands.

      Ward-Stevenson and Ward-Bellew are fights basically destined for Las Vegas, and both showdowns will likely be priced the exact same way (Kovalev basically proved himself to be a non-draw; GYM and Stevenson will bring high-end money with them from Montreal, and the UK will travel in strong numbers for one of their own stars).

      Outside of those two fights, expect Andre Ward to stick to fighting in Oakland or at Barclays Center (keeping to the same price points that he's been keeping things at since he returned with the Paul Smith fight, $400-$40 with the upper bowl at $20/$25, until he's trending towards selling out the full building).
      Im not mad at ward for making his money lord knows He deseerves it. The fight drawing that gate from such a small paying audience shows that roc nation made the right choice with their pricing.

      I agree with Stevenson being Las Vegas bound but I don't think the same thing about bellew. He'll take some fans but not many and I think ward would make more coming over here and fighting at say goodison park. I'm sure that would sell out and with his roc nation guarantee, us tv money and a split of the ppv revenue from over here he would make a very nice payday.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Cinci Champ
        ya well just pretend kov wasnt involved as well
        So the local American Olympic gold medalist hero could not draw a crowd, and you want to blame the Russian fighter who speaks poor English? Really? I am also pretty sure that most people who bought tickets and ordered the PPV did it to see Kovalev fight, not Ward...

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          #164
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          That's what Iole quoted, citing information asked for from the Nevada Commission. I don't fathom a reason why Nevada would like about that.

          RocNation priced the fight too aggressively, in hindsight, but you have to know where your fighter stands.

          Ward-Stevenson and Ward-Bellew are fights basically destined for Las Vegas, and both showdowns will likely be priced the exact same way (Kovalev basically proved himself to be a non-draw; GYM and Stevenson will bring high-end money with them from Montreal, and the UK will travel in strong numbers for one of their own stars).

          Outside of those two fights, expect Andre Ward to stick to fighting in Oakland or at Barclays Center (keeping to the same price points that he's been keeping things at since he returned with the Paul Smith fight, $400-$40 with the upper bowl at $20/$25, until he's trending towards selling out the full building).
          Ward vs Stevenson sells out in Montreal. They wont make more money anywhere else unless its about casino money. Gate wise the max they can get is in Montreal.

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            #165
            Damn that means Roc Nation lost a hell of a Lot of money..

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              #166
              Originally posted by Cinci Champ
              ya well just pretend kov wasnt involved as well
              Isn't Ward the so called A side and Olympic good example black American going around with flag and sweet scientist?
              Looks like common fans don't enjoy headbutting and ball teasing contests.

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                #167
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Where are you Motorcity Cobra? Redd Foxx?
                Why are you looking for me? I already posted in this topic.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  There's no mention of the joint concert promotion in the boxingvoice article, do it'd seem like they editorialized on partial information


                  Lol, Ok.
                  It clearly states between $15-17 million per fight for 3 fights. I've also seen it mentioned in other articles, etc...even recent ones. Me being a die hard Cotto fan should know. The concerts and promotional help for Cotto was seperate, an undisclosed amount.

                  But it's all good, no worries.

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                  • The Time
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Some folks will laugh, but Ward-Bellew is a PPV fight in the US; "real life Rocky story" (Creed did beyond well in the US), Ward as the best fighter in the sport and can talk, Bellew being a larger-than-life personality who can talk **** with the best of them (and actually fight), Hollywood (and Black Hollywood) coming out to support, UK stars coming over for the spectacle, etc.

                    You add that the fight can basically be sold at three times the Box Office price in UK, and I don't see Bellew generating the kind of heat in the UK to top what it can do in Las Vegas, especially if Bellew comes out here and destroys the press events with top-notch banter.


                    I agree, I like the Ward-Bellew fight.

                    Danny "Stuntman" Wheeler vs Pretty Ricky Conlan.

                    To be a PPV in the U.S., Eddie Hearn has to have Bellew fight on U.S. TV and familiarize him with the U.S. audience.

                    Right now it's not a PPV in the U.S., it wouldn't sell good in the U.S.

                    In the U.K. you are looking at big PPV numbers and big gate numbers.
                    I'm just being real about it.

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                      #170
                      So Kovalev pays the ultimate price bc his purse was based on gate and PPV. Main events either got screwed or screwed KOv. Sad really

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