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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #161
    Originally posted by rudy
    I am sure Ricky Hatton would same the same about Pacman who was on drugs when he battered Hatton.

    Even the cotto fight
    You have proof? Mayweather sure didn't, and he was the one caught with an illegal IV in his arm.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #162
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      You have proof? Mayweather sure didn't, and he was the one caught with an illegal IV in his arm.
      Yes there is proof-he refused a drug test. If you refuse a drug test on your job, you will get fired because its treated the same as a positive.

      This is Manny's job. He refused to test. Treat it the same as a positive.

      If a saline IV is proof, despite testing negative before and after the IV was administered, refusing to take a drug test is more of a red flag.

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      • rudy
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        #163
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
        You have proof? Mayweather sure didn't, and he was the one caught with an illegal IV in his arm.
        remember when there was no testing Short Stops were hitting 50+ homeruns and manny was apparently having a growth spurt at age 29, he carried his power, conditioning up in weight classes, and had a killer instinct. When the testing started Short stops went back to their normal numbers...and you've seen pac struggle with Horn, a guy who has been pro for 4-5 years....If pac was as good as YOU guys claim, he should've got the job done....he either got old over the last year or he was on some sh|t earlier in his career

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        • boxinggod101
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          #164
          U caught many fishes with ur troll thread lol. U guys are fools getting caught everytime lol

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          • boxinggod101
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            #165
            Originally posted by rudy
            remember when there was no testing Short Stops were hitting 50+ homeruns and manny was apparently having a growth spurt at age 29, he carried his power, conditioning up in weight classes, and had a killer instinct. When the testing started Short stops went back to their normal numbers...and you've seen pac struggle with Horn, a guy who has been pro for 4-5 years....If pac was as good as YOU guys claim, he should've got the job done....he either got old over the last year or he was on some sh|t earlier in his career

            How is it possible that a fighter got old over the last years lol. U got oow iq my man lol

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            • Vadrigar.
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              #166
              Originally posted by _Maxi
              Ducking what?

              Conte explains why Jon Jones numbers were su****ious as well http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vic...****ious-80631
              CIR will detect testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols. Testosterone synthesized from cholesterol is undetectable. Testosterone synthesized from soy phytosterols is the most common prescription testosterone because it is cheaper to produce. However, any skilled chemist can synthesize testosterone from cholesterol. Hello Memo Heredia.

              Although the CIR tests would be able to detect if Jones had been using exogenous testosterone, Conte remains skeptical not only of the champion’s low overall levels, but of the great variance in Jones’ T/E ratios as well.

              “If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation.


              “These are highly su****ious for Jon Jones, in my opinion,” Conte said. “This is the reason that sophisticated anti-doping officials do target testing. So based on what we see here, my opinion is Jon Jones should be on a very short leash and should be random tested here until they sort out why he has these anomalies.”

              That Jones’ levels were as low as they were should raise a red flag, according to Conte, because the use of performance enhancing drugs could be a potential culprit.

              The question is what was suppressing his testosterone production for that period of time. Something caused it to go down, and I do not believe it was overtraining,” Conte said. “Exogenous testosterone and other steroids in a period of time, depending on dosage and method of administration, can completely shut your testosterone and epitestosterone levels in urine to 0....The levels being low there can be many explanations. [People say], ‘Well maybe it’s because he was taking *******.’ There’s no solid science out there that shows ******* lowers testosterone.

              "Typically without using drugs with black males, 50 to 150 would be the normal range [for testosterone], compared to Jon Jones came back his highest level was 4.9. Even on the low end he’s only got 10 percent of that. It’s really, really low,” Conte continued. “It wasn’t just that one time. The first part of December when he tested again the second time it’s still relatively low. Those are in my opinion just highly su****ious, very, very low levels.”
              So this could explain why he passed CIR (that's assuming CIR was undertaken) yet still has "highly su****ious" levels.
              Last edited by Vadrigar.; 07-06-2017, 02:33 PM.

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              • Vadrigar.
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                • ironmt
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Yes there is proof-he refused a drug test. If you refuse a drug test on your job, you will get fired because its treated the same as a positive.

                  This is Manny's job. He refused to test. Treat it the same as a positive.

                  If a saline IV is proof, despite testing negative before and after the IV was administered, refusing to take a drug test is more of a red flag.
                  Pacquiao was willing to agree to was a random blood test up to 24 days out.

                  Under Pacquiao's final proposal, there would be unlimited urine testing, one scheduled blood test during the week of the kick off press conference, one random blood test up to 24 days before the fight, and one final scheduled blood test immediately after the fight.

                  Doesn't sound like someone refusing to test.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by ironmt
                    Pacquiao was willing to agree to was a random blood test up to 24 days out.

                    Under Pacquiao's final proposal, there would be unlimited urine testing, one scheduled blood test during the week of the kick off press conference, one random blood test up to 24 days before the fight, and one final scheduled blood test immediately after the fight.

                    Doesn't sound like someone refusing to test.
                    Yes it does. It's just a round about way of doing so.

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                    • ironmt
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Yes it does. It's just a round about way of doing so.
                      What's the round about way?

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