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  • BrometheusBob.
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    #81
    Originally posted by ironmt
    We actually have members here that believe that "being the aggressor" wins the round almost all the time.
    I heard Harold Lederman say it so it must be true

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    • dibzvincent143
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      #82
      Originally posted by Ca$trO
      I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight?

      just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought....
      10-8 rounds should only be given to a knockdown. Provodnikov hurt bradley even more so than pac did horn and he still got a 10-9 round

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      • ironmt
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        #83
        Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
        I heard Harold Lederman say it so it must be true

        lol, yeah.

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        • dibzvincent143
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          #84
          Horn harassed pacquiao from beginning to end, appeared as someone who wanted it more, would unload everytime pac shells up, had pac hesitant and backing off most of the time. Horn was also consistent with his energy and approached all throughout the fight while pac was way inconsistent,
          Horn imposed the pace that he wanted that's why he looked more commanding and in control out there, except for the parts of 8th and the whole 9th

          Maybe its just an illusion he made, maybe there's also substance to it but one thing is for sure manny was struggling in there, that's why judges gave it to horn.

          Pac got some good hits but never really able to control the tempo, to make it his fight, to control when the exchanges happen and when they don't. Well, pac is just old so i wont even gonna criticize him with his performance.

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          • Raonic
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            #85
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            Ahhh, at least a little honesty.

            Looking forward to your round by round breakdown, especially your description of how Horn was mercilessly battering Manny's hands with his face in the 9th...
            Manny was clearly hitting him with elbows and headbutts throughout.


            But in all seriousness, I can't see how anyone could have Horn winning more than 4 rounds, and he basically only won those 4 rounds for merit of "aggression", even if it was extremely ineffective.

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            • KingHippo
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              #86
              Originally posted by hitman smax
              Hippo,

              By the way, I wouldn't brag about being in line with these corrupted judges. This was clearly a subjective group.
              You are free to review my scorecard and refute any round I had wrong.

              Strange how I happen to coincidentally be in line with a completely subjective group I had absolutely no contact with. Maybe we have the same vision of how a fight should be judged and the average public are using their emotions to affect theirs?

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                #87
                Horn won that fight & before the fight I thought for sure manny was going to win. Manny seemed I little less aggressive than usual. Might be time to hang'em up.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun

                  ^ Side Parry

                  Counter right.

                  Jeff Horn is terrible! he was allowed to make it ugly but thats not the art of boxing! if anyone scored the final round for Jeff Horn PLEASE log out - you been fooled when they told you watching a Rocky movie qualifies you to score a professional boxing contest ; wheres the technique? show me your skills! this dude just bullied Pacquiao, I didn't see nothing special.

                  I had it 7-5 the first time. Studying the film it was wider for Pacquiao.
                  Jeff bullied, out worked & out landed manny, he made it ugly but he still won that fight.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    If you mute the tv im SURE you will see a different fight bc commentators bend shyte to a biased view or call things incorrectly.

                    Atlas is off his rocker everything he said was actually the opposite of what was going on .It was also terrible style of commentating ,poor Bradly had a raving nut next to him who basically had to agree with his trainer . Yes you can post images of Horn missing but the guy won the early rnds and arguably needed just 1 more decisive one to win bc that adds up to 6 or 7 and yes HE WAS aggressive which under the RULES counts .....

                    Where Horn WAS using effective aggression MOST of the time. To not think this fight was close is really the biggest puzzle of all when i think of what fight ppl are watching ?
                    Agreed, & Atlas is usually good too but sucks at predicting fights. Jeff won that fight.

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                    • hitman smax
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by KingHippo
                      You are free to review my scorecard and refute any round I had wrong.

                      Strange how I happen to coincidentally be in line with a completely subjective group I had absolutely no contact with. Maybe we have the same vision of how a fight should be judged and the average public are using their emotions to affect theirs?
                      It's simple, you, just like them, saw what you wanted to see.

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