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  • Vlad_
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    #1

    Boxing Scoring System Flaws

    I make this thread following because overnight a ton of threads appeared about controversy. And lately we've had this several times following big fights.

    Imo the boxing scoring system needs to change or have modifications added.

    Scenario A.
    Having a very close round (i.e 19 vs 20 punches landed) and the judges swing it to one guy = 10-9

    Scenario B.
    Having a round where one guy totally dominates the other guy (i.e 5 vs 35 punches landed) but doesn't drop him = 10-9

    That is just totally messed up. They have to start looking at the whole fight in general.
    Because by current rules the guy who had 7 rounds of scenario A gets 115 pts whereas the guy who gets 5 rounds of scenario B gets 113 points so it's 115-113 but whi really won the fight.

    Also, the sport needs to start using replays and video a lot more for the refereeing as well as the judging.

    State your thoughts.
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    #2
    Quit the bs

    The stuff you posted didn't happen last night

    Why don't you look at what round by round punches landed, did Joshua's uppercut on wlad hit that hard that it affected his fan base too?

    Don't reply to this

    Log off and piss off boy

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    • Vlad_
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      #3
      Originally posted by lfc19titles
      Quit the bs

      The stuff you posted didn't happen last night

      Why don't you look at what round by round punches landed, did Joshua's uppercut on wlad hit that hard that it affected his fan base too?

      Don't reply to this

      Log off and piss off boy
      I will reply to this you ****sucker because it has nothing to do with last night. It has to do with current boxing in general. Take that red K back right up your stretched anus.

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      • HAMMER77777
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        #4
        Originally posted by Vlad_
        I make this thread following because overnight a ton of threads appeared about controversy. And lately we've had this several times following big fights.

        Imo the boxing scoring system needs to change or have modifications added.

        Scenario A.
        Having a very close round (i.e 19 vs 20 punches landed) and the judges swing it to one guy = 10-9

        Scenario B.
        Having a round where one guy totally dominates the other guy (i.e 5 vs 35 punches landed) but doesn't drop him = 10-9

        That is just totally messed up. They have to start looking at the whole fight in general.
        Because by current rules the guy who had 7 rounds of scenario A gets 115 pts whereas the guy who gets 5 rounds of scenario B gets 113 points so it's 115-113 but whi really won the fight.

        Also, the sport needs to start using replays and video a lot more for the refereeing as well as the judging.

        State your thoughts.
        Agreed. Judges need to use some flexibility. Score 10-8 without a KD if the guy is dominant. Heck, even 10-7 if its a blowout. Also, if there is a KD but the other guy Wins the rest of the round, go 10-9, instead of 10-8. If a round is even, then 10-10. That's how I score.

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        • Vegemil
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          #5
          This'll have even more flaws. It'll make it so corrupt judges can definitely give a decision to their fighter.

          In the current landscape if you score a certain amount of knockdowns it's impossible to lose. With the new system judges will give their dude 10-8 every round.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #6
            Originally posted by Vlad_
            I make this thread following because overnight a ton of threads appeared about controversy. And lately we've had this several times following big fights.

            Imo the boxing scoring system needs to change or have modifications added.

            Scenario A.
            Having a very close round (i.e 19 vs 20 punches landed) and the judges swing it to one guy = 10-9

            Scenario B.
            Having a round where one guy totally dominates the other guy (i.e 5 vs 35 punches landed) but doesn't drop him = 10-9

            That is just totally messed up. They have to start looking at the whole fight in general.
            Because by current rules the guy who had 7 rounds of scenario A gets 115 pts whereas the guy who gets 5 rounds of scenario B gets 113 points so it's 115-113 but whi really won the fight.

            Also, the sport needs to start using replays and video a lot more for the refereeing as well as the judging.

            State your thoughts.
            Pac had one round of scenario B lol

            But I agree there needs to be some change, having said that, how many of you even know how a boxing match is scored? The reality is, a number of criteria are subjective, so how do we override that subjectivity? Heck, punch stats are subjective too (and bollocks mostly).

            The best way would be to put sensors on boxing gloves and for those sensors to record every punch thrown and every punch landed. The judges can then take that data, see who threw and landed more and come to some sort of preliminary decision. After that, they then discuss the actual merits of the fight and come to a final decision.

            However, that would all be very costly, very time consuming and ultimately, the technology to distinguish between hitting a scoring area and a non scoring area is not there.

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            • soul_survivor
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              #7
              What this does raise is the dicussion on 12 rounds v 15 rounds.

              A fight like we saw last night, Pacquiao came on strong in rounds 8-11 and slightly gave it away in round 12. In the old days, a fighter like Horn may have faded in round 13 and been stopped in the 14th. That is no longer posisble as the championship distance is shorter. Would 15 rounds be more beneficial?

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #8
                I've been saying for quite awhile they need to come up with a close round & clear round difference in scoring as thats a very obvious hole in how fights are scored.

                I wouldn't be opposed to "Pride Rules" scoring, scoring the fight as a whole as you bring up, but I think thats harder in boxing then it is in MMA since boxing has so many breaks in comparison so idk that I'd be a supporter of it either. I think its easier to get lost in the overall trajectory of the fight when its longer & broken up more like boxing is.

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                • Vlad_
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by soul_survivor
                  What this does raise is the dicussion on 12 rounds v 15 rounds.

                  A fight like we saw last night, Pacquiao came on strong in rounds 8-11 and slightly gave it away in round 12. In the old days, a fighter like Horn may have faded in round 13 and been stopped in the 14th. That is no longer posisble as the championship distance is shorter. Would 15 rounds be more beneficial?
                  Yes. I fully support the 15 round battle for Championship fights. Absolutely!

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                  • Jc8804
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                    #10
                    Very simple .

                    1.Have a scoreboard like every other sport
                    In the world.

                    2.smaller rings- 175 and above fight in 22x22, 154-168 fight in 20x20,130-147 18x18,
                    126 and below fight in 16x16

                    3. Have a 13th overtime round for any draws after 12 rounds.

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