Comments Thread For: Arum Not Angry: Pacquiao-Horn Could Have Gone Either Way

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I'm actually working on some YouTube videos & articles to submit about this & many other things in boxing. I am compiling as much hard evidence as possible to demonstrate what a currupt dirtbag the NSAC/other sanctioning bodies/Arum & media like rafeal all are. Dan Rafael is a total pos dîckrider who picks & chooses who to hate on & who to ass lick. I cant stand that dirtbag,only teddy atlus is at least usually honest,but hes scared to rock the boat or hell lose his nestegg. Look how he was commentating arums event because he works 4 espn,hell never speak up against arum either.

Respect to you for doing that. When you get those YouTube videos done let me know, I'd love to watch them.

Be sure to mention the lack of objectivity by the likes of Dan Rafael, Steve Kim, Thomas Hauser, etc. People need to know and the word needs to spread.

[jas]

I'm actually working on some YouTube videos & articles to submit about this & many other things in boxing. I am compiling as much hard evidence as possible to demonstrate what a currupt dirtbag the NSAC/other sanctioning bodies/Arum & media like rafeal all are. Dan Rafael is a total pos dîckrider who picks & chooses who to hate on & who to ass lick. I cant stand that dirtbag,only teddy atlus is at least usually honest,but hes scared to rock the boat or hell lose his nestegg. Look how he was commentating arums event because he works 4 espn,hell never speak up against arum either.

Bro look at Dave morettis scorecards

[iloveboxing2]

Screw Arum, fight was obviously fixed for rematch just like the Bradley/pac fight.

[kushking]

Respect to you for doing that. When you get those YouTube videos done let me know, I'd love to watch them.

Be sure to mention the lack of objectivity by the likes of Dan Rafael, Steve Kim, Thomas Hauser, etc. People need to know and the word needs to spread.

Bro look at Dave morettis scorecards

Arum has fired matchmaker Sean Gibbons.
Gibbons, who did not return messages, was fired Monday.
"He is not an employee any longer. I am not going to comment on any reason," Arum attorney Richard Wright said Wednesday.
Gibbons' name was among those on a search warrant under which the FBI raided Arum's Las Vegas offices last week as part of an ongoing 20-month probe in conjunction with the New York City police that is looking into possible fight fixing, medical document fraud, scale tampering and illegal transport of Mexican fighters to the USA.
An Oklahoma native and cousin of former lightweight champion-turned-broadcaster Sean O'Grady, Gibbons had as a key responsibility finding opponents for the young boxers Top Rank was building up on its roughly 50 cards a year.
Gibbons, 37, who reported to head matchmaker Bruce Trampler, also found opponents for Eric "Butterbean" Esch, the popular 300-plus pound heavyweight attraction who used to fight for Top Rank. Several of his fights are in question.
Gibbons also is close with lightweight Verdell Smith, whose 2001 rematch with Jorge Paez is under scrutiny. Paez won the fight, which was nationally televised on Spanish-language network TeleFutura, via third-round stoppage.
Gibbons' name has come up in connection with previous fight-fixing allegations. According to a 1999 Miami Herald investigation, Gibbons asked two heavyweights to throw fights.
Heavyweight Andre Smiley said Gibbons offered him extra $500 during a fight if he would go down.
Heavyweight Mike Smith said Gibbons regularly fixed fights. TheHerald quoted Smith from a 1997 Oklahoma Department of Labor investigative report: "Sean (Gibbons) would say, 'They not gonna pay you if you win,' you know. So I had to lose. ... I was ashamed, you know, to keep doing these things. I knew it wasn't right. I knew I wanted to win!"
Gibbons called the allegation "a complete lie" in The Herald story.

SO WHAT WAS GIBBONS DOING BEHIND MANNY AT FIRST THEN BEHIND HORN BEFORE THE SCORES WERE EVEN READ? IS HE A MIND READER? LMFAOOOOOO

Ill let you guys know when its done hopfully if not today then this week ill be done with part of it,& I will be completely objective in my assessment. Im not going to allow my own biases interject either, I'll definitely post it here for you guys to see but it might be published on another site. NOBODY will be spared not gbp/pbp/tr/etc. etc. They are all currupt in different ways from just previous media reports alone. The problem it seems is that these types of sites dont have a actual journalist working for them it seems. I encourage anyone of you to do the same as all you need to do is compile other articles as proof & combine them. Basically all I plan on doing is making videos/articles that take info from many other sources/soundbites qoutes etc. And piecing them together to form vids/articles that the average casual fan can read & realize what scumbags they are. I was working on this to expose fifa for a yr before suddenly the fbi investigation happened & it took the wind out of my sails.

[Floyd is TBE]

Arum and Pac were more angry about the Mayweather decision. They vehemently protested that loss, made every excuse in the book and that was decisive win for Floyd. I'm not saying the fix was in but Manny and Arum are known sore losers, they seem way too content with Horn getting the nod with the judges. It looks su****ious

[kushking]

Arum and Pac were more angry about the Mayweather decision. They vehemently protested that loss, made every excuse in the book and that was decisive win for Floyd. I'm not saying the fix was in but Manny and Arum are known sore losers, they seem way too content with Horn getting the nod with the judges. It looks su****ious

That's exactly what Im saying,it makes zero sense whatsoever. I think pacquiao has been trying to cash out & possibly betting against himself since mayweather fight. I dont wanna angry mayweather fans but its very fishy that they had a hotel meeting where mayweather said he supposedly wanted to know pacs motives for suddenly wanting the fight,& then suddenly that sealed the deal, pacquiao has also PROVEN to be at least a liar, he's always claimed to not care about money yet has demonstrated at every turn esp. recently that hes all about the money. My theory has always been(unprovable)that pacquiao told mayweather he had a shoulder injury but just wanted the money anyway & didn't care about the loss. Pacquiao has never cared about losing,hes just a greedy politician like the rest,hes been accepting the extrajudicial killing of his own people yet claims hes all about god,he sells out philipinos regularly whenever Duterte asks even when pacs fought against same issues beforehand.

[p4ptbe]

Ill let you guys know when its done hopfully if not today then this week ill be done with part of it,& I will be completely objective in my assessment. Im not going to allow my own biases interject either, I'll definitely post it here for you guys to see but it might be published on another site. NOBODY will be spared not gbp/pbp/tr/etc. etc. They are all currupt in different ways from just previous media reports alone. The problem it seems is that these types of sites dont have a actual journalist working for them it seems. I encourage anyone of you to do the same as all you need to do is compile other articles as proof & combine them. Basically all I plan on doing is making videos/articles that take info from many other sources/soundbites qoutes etc. And piecing them together to form vids/articles that the average casual fan can read & realize what scumbags they are. I was working on this to expose fifa for a yr before suddenly the fbi investigation happened & it took the wind out of my sails.

cool im looking forward to it man! i always get a lot of hate for defending haymon but most of the times i defend haymon and PBC because it seems like Arum/TOP RANK Oscar and GB get soo many passes and haymon never gets passes or the benefit of the doubt! if the hate for haymon was equal for all promoters from all writers people would not defend haymon as much as they do i bet... this horn vs manny debacle has been the worse thing tht happened to boxing in a while. soo many people were watching that fight last night and arum shamelessly robbed his own star to make a rematch for money... people are always quick to blame mayweather and haymon for ruining boxing but this robbery last night will have no effect on the narrative about arum in the media! he will get a total pass from the majority of the public! if it was haymon it would be a lot worse! even oscar deserves to be called out for that horrible canelo vs chavez ppv scam! that was even worse than floyd vs berto

[kushking]

Bro look at Dave morettis scorecards

Respect to you for doing that. When you get those YouTube videos done let me know, I'd love to watch them.

Be sure to mention the lack of objectivity by the likes of Dan Rafael, Steve Kim, Thomas Hauser, etc. People need to know and the word needs to spread.

thanks for this ETHER! but whats sad is dan rafael or steve kim or dougie fisher would never have the balls to write and expose what you just did...

I sent you all freind requests & since you all have shown interest & personal knowledge of curruption I will maybe create a thread where anyone can submit anything you think is relevant,& maybe I can have you guys either indirectly or directly help me make the vids or articles. I encourage ANYONE to make videos/articles to do the same on your own & you can get paid in the process. I will send you all the way you can get paid for your writing & you know YouTube pays also. Its an easy way to make money while helping casuals/box fans know the truth.

[daggum]

cool im looking forward to it man! i always get a lot of hate for defending haymon but most of the times i defend haymon and PBC because it seems like Arum/TOP RANK Oscar and GB get soo many passes and haymon never gets passes or the benefit of the doubt! if the hate for haymon was equal for all promoters from all writers people would not defend haymon as much as they do i bet... this horn vs manny debacle has been the worse thing tht happened to boxing in a while. soo many people were watching that fight last night and arum shamelessly robbed his own star to make a rematch for money... people are always quick to blame mayweather and haymon for ruining boxing but this robbery last night will have no effect on the narrative about arum in the media! he will get a total pass from the majority of the public! if it was haymon it would be a lot worse! even oscar deserves to be called out for that horrible canelo vs chavez ppv scam! that was even worse than floyd vs berto

haymon is just as corrupt. you see those easter shafikov scorecards? there are no consequences to rigging fights so why wouldnt you? people in boxing finally realized there are no police on the streets so they are just looting the stores.

[kushking]

haymon is just as corrupt. you see those easter shafikov scorecards? there are no consequences to rigging fights so why wouldnt you? people in boxing finally realized there are no police on the streets so they are just looting the stores.

Yes your deadon, its the crooked ass politicians/police/feds etc. that have even held hearings in Congress for other sports but they dont care about Boxing as its vegas' bread & butter & some very powerful people would expose other powerful bilderburg puppets if they were caught. Its no coincidence that these promoters all used to work together at one time or another. Boxing needs to have a organization of fans that actually create a shîtstorm when it happens along with actual fines for robberies etc.