Can we all just admit Horn is actually a GOOD fighter.

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  • KingHippo
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    #21
    Originally posted by SalimShady1212
    Before the fight I was seeing tremendous backlash due to him being unknown but he was the mandatory and he needed an opportunity to prove himself. I understand the negativity as he was an unknown quantity however a few things people overlooked:
    -Australia's best ever olympic representative (quarter finalist, lost to silver medalist)
    -Earned mandatory position
    -has shown he can get back up from a hard KD like vs randal Bailey...when randall hits a motherlover they usually stay slept

    The ESPN commentary was absolute shambles but here in England it was a lot closer and we all agreed it could have gone either way. 7-5 Horn seemed perfectly reasonabls to me however I honestly question compubox cause no way Horn landed nearly half as many, he was doing ALL the work inside. Nonetheless I love Pacquiao and this is heartbreaking to me. This Pac would have lost to Bradley and Vargas. Maybe it's time to call it a day. Congratulations to Jeff, let the man celebrate, outstanding conditioning...dirty tactics but a fight's a fight. Teddy Atlas' behaviour when interviewing Horn was however disgusting; is dude meant to admit losing a close fight? Bradley was apparently the least biased understandingly as he experienced similar vs Manny (I thought he lost clearly)

    Now what I'd like to see is my boy who's also the highest WBO challenger, Lucas Matthysse put some hurt on that boy
    Been saying time and time again that this was a great fight and that Horn was a great fighter. Not surprised by this at all.

    Originally posted by KingHippo
    Horn really isn't that bad of a boxer. I guarantee you this goes the distance and we might see a controversial split decision.
    Last edited by KingHippo; 07-02-2017, 11:30 AM.

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    • Johnny2x2x
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      #22
      He had good movement and was harder to hit that I thought. He roughed Manny up, but overall his offense was bad. Wide amateur punches and he didn't have the footwork to capitalize when he would stun Manny.

      Horn was tough and I give him credit. But he's not a top 10 Welter IMO. This fight was about Manny getting really old in the ring quickly. Manny should retire. He just got beat by a school teacher.
      Last edited by Johnny2x2x; 07-02-2017, 11:58 AM.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Who's saying he ain't a good fighter? Manny hasn't even fought a guy who wasn't a good fighter since the 1990's. He's s limited good fighter, but a good fighter all the same. Sh^t man anyone in the top 1000 fighters can be deemed a good fighter I'd argue.
        I am. This fight said more about manny than it did horn. This was not a great fight.

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        • RussB23
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          #24
          Not a total bum like i thought.I never even heard of him before this fight. He is VERY tough though and has alot of heart, he didnt beat manny though and wouldnt beat spence, thurman, or brook. I think he can give the rest of the welters a tough fight but still would most likely lose.

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          • ray moe
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            #25
            Lol, no, he's not a good fighter, man. He's average at most. He got lucky and pacman was too lazy to take that fight seriously and that's why he won, because pacquiao decided not to do nothing. This guys is not a good a fighter, too many flaws... toooooo many of them.

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            • SCEN3RY
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              #26
              Originally posted by KingHippo
              Been saying time and time again that this was a great fight and that Horn was a great fighter. Not surprised by this at all.
              Dude what are you talking about? lmao we had a quick back and forth on this, I thought I recalled your name...

              12-09-2016
              Originally posted by KingHippo
              Horn is complete garbage. One handed and pillow fisted. No jab whatsoever. Are you Australian?
              Now I'll admit Horn was sloppier (and certainly rougher) than I'd predicted myself, but you straight called him garbage. Great fighter? Incidentally the quote you posted was posted before the fight so you get [awkward] credit there.
              Last edited by SCEN3RY; 07-02-2017, 12:06 PM.

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              • Freedef
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                #27
                Jessie Vargas is good fighter. not great and i dont see Horn beating him

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                • KingHippo
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SCEN3RY
                  Dude what are you talking about? lmao we had a quick back and forth on this, I thought I recalled your name...

                  12-09-2016


                  Now I'll admit Horn was A LOT sloppier (and certainly rougher) than I'd predicted myself, but you straight called him garbage. Great fighter? Incidentally the quote you posted was posted before the fight so you get [awkward] credit there.
                  I made this comment right after the Mueller fight. Horn was still very green back then. Boxers do improve you know.

                  I posted this on 05-29-2017

                  Originally posted by KingHippo
                  I've been saying that for a longtime. Horn really isn't that bad of a boxer. I guarantee you this goes the distance and we might see a controversial split decision.

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                  • SCEN3RY
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by KingHippo
                    Horn was still very green the first time I saw him. Boxers do improve you know.

                    I posted this on 05-29-2017
                    December 2016 actually. That's quite the improvement in 6 months. Maybe you could just admit you misjudged him. Whatever, it's no big deal to me, I just recall you getting extra angry when I didn't refer to Horn as a bum.

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                    • Real King Kong
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                      He is one of those Shawn Porter type fighters in what he lack in skill he makes up for in effort. If you notice they both use a mugging style and use tactics some would consider dirty.
                      Pretty much this^^ i didn't think he'd be able to push that kind of pace for 12 rounds, but he had more in the tank than i thought. He was smart to smother pac and keep leaning on the back of his neck if the ref wasn't gonna warn him. He took what's left of pacs legs by constantly leaning on him. The size advantage was helpful too.

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