Pacquiao's footwork- is gone.

[Thraxox]

I just rewatched the fight, rewatched the Rios fight, and it was leagues different. Pac fought flat footed, the first time I had seen him in a decade, flat footed is the last thing you would describe for Manny.

There was no bounce, no side step, no nothing, he just stood there, he didn't confuse Horn with his angles or lead foot side step or anything, he was flat footed half of the fight, only using his footwork in the center to throw the straight left.

Pacquiao is truly shot as a fighter. And would favor Horn to knock him out if a rematch happens-I hope not. and I had Pac winning 8-4

[JoeyKrak617]

100% 30 seconds in you could tell Pac had no legs

[GorillaDog]

LMFAO. That's funny because I remember clearly BEFORE the Rios fight people were saying Pacman was done. They were saying his legs was gone and he didnt use the angles. But the thing was he fought a punching bag that made his skills shine.

[Thraxox]

Bump. Come on guys.

[Thraxox]

Bump for discussion.

[Thraxox]

LMFAO. That's funny because I remember clearly BEFORE the Rios fight people were saying Pacman was done. They were saying his legs was gone and he didnt use the angles. But the thing was he fought a punching bag that made his skills shine.

But the problem was the guy that Pacquiao actually has legs to go forward and has arms to punch. Rios was just a punching bag with arms.

[Doctor_Tenma]

On top of that Pacquiao isn't physical up close, he doesn't possess that kind of strength nor does he know how to utilize that, it's never been his thing regardless. When creating spacing solely comes through the use of your legs, it's gonna be difficult to deal with having diminished legs. It'd be less of an issue for him if he can make 140 healthy but I doubt he wants to make weight.

[ironmt]

I just rewatched the fight, rewatched the Rios fight, and it was leagues different. Pac fought flat footed, the first time I had seen him in a decade, flat footed is the last thing you would describe for Manny.

There was no bounce, no side step, no nothing, he just stood there, he didn't confuse Horn with his angles or lead foot side step or anything, he was flat footed half of the fight, only using his footwork in the center to throw the straight left.

Pacquiao is truly shot as a fighter. And would favor Horn to knock him out if a rematch happens-I hope not. and I had Pac winning 8-4

I had the same score for Pacquiao and I also feel that he will get knocked out If he fights Horn again.

1. He stood and tried to brawl with a guy that weighed probably 160lbs or more.

2. He looked slow.

3. He missed more punches than I can ever remember him missing.

4. He threw one punch at a time on numerous occassions.

5. His stamina Is no where near what It once was.

It's almost as If he forgot how to box and was desperate for the KO.

He Is completely shot. This Is another prime example of the old saying that A fighter can get old overnight. He Is old and has been through a tremendous amount In his HOF career.

If Freddie Roach has any compassion or feelings for Manny, he will be adamant about his retirement.

[fourtheboys96]

He isn't the same as say 5 years ago. But more than age, I believe he doesnt train as hard as before. Maybe because it is easy for him to make 147lbs and there no real motivation to exert the extra effort in training.

[Dosumpthin]

I had the same score for Pacquiao and I also feel that he will get knocked out If he fights Horn again.

1. He stood and tried to brawl with a guy that weighed probably 160lbs or more.

2. He looked slow.

3. He missed more punches than I can ever remember him missing.

4. He threw one punch at a time on numerous occassions.

5. His stamina Is no where near what It once was.

It's almost as If he forgot how to box and was desperate for the KO.

He Is completely shot. This Is another prime example of the old saying that A fighter can get old overnight. He Is old and has been through a tremendous amount In his HOF career.

If Freddie Roach has any compassion or feelings for Manny, he will be adamant about his retirement.

Pact@rds finally realizing what everyone was saying since day one.

100 PED fueled punches per round and toradol to block straights with your face.

This is what you think is BOXING?

Pac was juiced to the gills. Stopped juicing when Floyd called him out = HASNT HAD A KO SINCE 2009.

Wake up. The writing is on the wall.
He was never a technical fighter. NEVER. Just speed and agility and southpaw + DRUGS.